[the truth]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

I thought we were talking about socialism versus capitalism so why are we talking about ex communist E Berlin?

Socialism and Communism are about as different as Capitalism and Fascism; one can become the other but they all have very different ideologies.

not really the end results are often similar. they waste tax payers money and those in power take care of themselves and the countries go bankrupt.
a mixed economy is the best way, but the governments need to regulate big companies way tighter. instead of being bought off.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by the truth

not really the end results are often similar. they waste tax payers money and those in power take care of themselves and the countries go bankrupt.

But that's neither socialist or capatalist, its just corruption.

a mixed economy is the best way, but the governments need to regulate big companies way tighter. instead of being bought off.

Reformist socialism, is fruitful and adaptable within twenty first century Britain. Reformist socialism accepts a mixture of private and public ownership and very much encourages a free market sector. When it comes to nationalization its not only socialist idea, its also conservatist and liberal idea or at least it was before the neo-liberal conservatives got a grip and started turning every available asset into gold.

I'm all for a good dose of capitalism but lets at least follow the ideology of what capitalism is about.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

But that's neither socialist or capatalist, its just corruption.



Reformist socialism, is fruitful and adaptable within twenty first century Britain. Reformist socialism accepts a mixture of private and public ownership and very much encourages a free market sector. When it comes to nationalization its not only socialist idea, its also conservatist and liberal idea or at least it was before the neo-liberal conservatives got a grip and started turning every available asset into gold.

I'm all for a good dose of capitalism but lets at least follow the ideology of what capitalism is about.

sounds like utopia tbh but how do we get there.....who regulates the regulators?

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by the truth

sounds like utopia tbh but how do we get there.....who regulates the regulators?

By getting rid of this new 'neo-liberal style conservatism'. I'm sure there are plenty of conservative MP's who would support that move.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

By getting rid of this new 'neo-liberal style conservatism'. I'm sure there are plenty of conservative MP's who would support that move.

What does new neo liberal mean

[Livia]

Originally Posted by the truth

What does new neo liberal mean

Whatever they are, I'm sure getting rid of them isn't going to lead us to Utopia.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by the truth

What does new neo liberal mean

http://www.globalexchange.org/resour...liberalismhist

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by the truth

What does new neo liberal mean

It's an ideology that runs a country into the ground, outsource industry to reduce employment while at the same time privatising anything in the public sector with greatly reduced regulation and or accountability.
Demolish infrastructure by giving other governments control of essential services.
Trade with anyone regardless of human rights record and preach aherance to tax laws unless you are rich enough to not have to.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

It's an ideology that runs a country into the ground, outsource industry to reduce employment while at the same time privatising anything in the public sector with greatly reduced regulation and or accountability.
Demolish infrastructure by giving other governments control of essential services.
Trade with anyone regardless of human rights record and preach aherance to tax laws unless you are rich enough to not have to.

Yes, its corporate rule. The only people who would vote for neoliberalism is the top 20% but because its a clever game where most people don't have a clue about neoliberal ideologies, the loser will be conned into voting for them.