[Jason.]

Wasn't Ben Frow the same person who sacked Brian and gave Emma the main show?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Jason.

Wasn't Ben Frow the same person who sacked Brian and gave Emma the main show?

And yet they've allowed Rylan to infest every corner of the show.

[zakman440]

I'd keep this in mind - if the ratings turn out to be quite bad then this may well come in to play.

[Headie]

Originally Posted by zakman440

I'd keep this in mind - if the ratings turn out to be quite bad then this may well come in to play.

Live Feed is never coming back, let it go tbh

[Jason.]

And tbh with so much that's wrong with the show nowadays, idc about live feed anymore. Yeah it would be nice if we had it, but the shoddy production we've had in the last 2 years is the thing that's tarnishing the show even further atm.

[drantb]

Well obviously, hence why it's all the more infuriating we don't get the option either.

Put it on YouTube, Put it on Periscope, ****, even Facebook has live feed options now - the world caught up with Big Brother and now it's gone backwards and has **** all to separate it from every other reality show that grew because of it and it's bizarre.

Sure there's costs there, but I reckon if they got rid of all that music they use throughout the series to pair with those garish, hackneyed and downright ugly montage sequences, they could probably afford an online feed.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by drantb

Well obviously, hence why it's all the more infuriating we don't get the option either.

Put it on YouTube, Put it on Periscope, ****, even Facebook has live feed options now - the world caught up with Big Brother and now it's gone backwards and has **** all to separate it from every other reality show that grew because of it and it's bizarre.

Sure there's costs there, but I reckon if they got rid of all that music they use throughout the series to pair with those garish, hackneyed and downright ugly montage sequences, they could probably afford an online feed.

Not the royalty fees for David Guetta albums taking up the budget.

[Wizard.]

I think by edited I think it means bird and helicopter sounds

[James]

The main cost of the 24/7 live feed isn't the production. It's the cost of having to provide a whole TV channel that could be showing other programmes that earn more.

They could do a subscription Internet feed, but let's be honest, not that many people would subscribe and watch if it was behind a paywall.

[Jamie89]

Originally Posted by James

The main cost of the 24/7 live feed isn't the production. It's the cost of having to provide a whole TV channel that could be showing other programmes that earn more.

They could do a subscription Internet feed, but let's be honest, not that many people would subscribe and watch if it was behind a paywall.

They could do a non-subscription internet feed? They wouldn't need to devote a whole TV channel then, and people wouldn't be put off by a subscription service.

Imo, the only reason they don't do it is because they don't want to give up editorial control.

[Maxxie.]

They could do it for free tbh, Canada does.

[James]

Originally Posted by Jamie89

They could do a non-subscription internet feed? They wouldn't need to devote a whole TV channel then, and people wouldn't be put off by a subscription service.

Imo, the only reason they don't do it is because they don't want to give up editorial control.

They have to cover the bandwidth costs. The more people watch the more it costs.

Actually I did some rough calculations there, based on how many people I think would watch, and it would be do-able for a subscription feed. But if they did it for free online they risk hundreds of thousands watching on average, and it would cost them millions.

It might partly also to do with editorial control now in that Celebrity Big Brother is so important for them, and they want to have the option of giving certain celebrities privileges - like Rylan leaving the house to go to X Factor tour auditions. Live feed would make that difficult to hide.

[Headie]

Originally Posted by James

They have to cover the bandwidth costs. The more people watch the more it costs.

Actually I did some rough calculations there, based on how many people I think would watch, and it would be do-able for a subscription feed. But if they did it for free online they risk hundreds of thousands watching on average, and it would cost them millions.

It might partly also to do with editorial control now in that Celebrity Big Brother is so important for them, and they want to have the option of giving certain celebrities privileges - like Rylan leaving the house to go to X Factor tour auditions. Live feed would make that difficult to hide.

If Big Brother Turkey can do a 24/7 live stream on YouTube for free then I think BBUK can afford it lmao

It's never coming back tho everyone needs to move on

[zakman440]

For the record, Frow was apparently happy with how the feed was going when it switched to online in 2013.

[12bigbrother12]

We don't have live feed because they don't want us to see BB employees directing housemates, watching housemates leave for X Factor tour rehearsals and going to the British embassy before coming back and announcing they met up with a co-worker. It has nothing to do with cost, it is so we don't know all the shady stuff they try to keep us from knowing.

It's easier to run a show when you don't have to meet the audience's expectations 24 hours a day.

[Firewire]

I'm bored of live feed close this @James

[*mazedsalv**]

Originally Posted by zakman440

I'd keep this in mind - if the ratings turn out to be quite bad then this may well come in to play.

No way.

Last year they responded to awful ratings with 4in4out.

Not even if it falls to 100k would they think about live feed.

[*mazedsalv**]

The late night feed was doubling the C5 slot average for the midnight slot.

That's why I don't get it

[JJ.]

Originally Posted by *mazedsalv**

The late night feed was doubling the C5 slot average for the midnight slot.

That's why I don't get it

Editorial control

They're producing the show the wrong way round sad one

[Jack_]

It's never been about the money, it's never been about the ratings. Never has been, never will be.

It's all about editorial control, and they're never going to give it up. Unfortunately we're just gonna have to accept BBUK as another run-of-the-mill reality show and turn to BBCan and BBUS when we wanna watch what Big Brother actually is.

[Jake.]

I'd understand all of this if BB14/CBB12 didn't have 2 hours a night (which was a success)

[emmetmcl]

Exactly as others have said. It really isn't that expensive to provide a live feed. If they wanted to do it, they could.

It's because they want to be able to edit the show as they wish.