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KIZZY - the first article by John King which I posted, and the second article by him which you posted, says it ALL really if we are truthful.
This issue of the UK's membership of the EU transcends British domestic political parties and the decision we all have to make on the 23rd of June is the THE most vitaly important decision we will ever have to make in the past 50 years. Genuine socialists say it, and HONEST capitalists who have no covert vested interests say it - WE HAVE TO GET OUT OF THE corrupt, money-draining shambles that is the EU if we are to survive as a country. Your excellent article by King not only ANSWERS all those sneering but misguided 'Remain' supporters who unfairly label anyone who is genuinely concerned about the untenable levels of unscreened immigration to this tiny island as xenophobic or racist or 'Little Englanders', it also explains just why they are misguided. It not only explains WHY it is perfectly alright to be Patriotic, but it also defines the difference between Patriotism and Nationalism - which is not alright. "England is perhaps the only great country whose intellectuals are ashamed of their own nationality. In left-wing circles it is always felt that there is something slightly disgraceful in being an Englishman and that it is a duty to snigger at every English institution, from horse racing to suet puddings. It is a strange fact, but it is unquestionably true that almost any English intellectual would feel more ashamed of standing to attention during “God Save the King” than of stealing from a poor box." The darling of the TRUE left - Owen Jones advocates Brexit and says that by Brexiting the left can reconnect with working-class communities it lost touch with long ago. Kate Hoey and Gisela Stuart - both Brexiteers - are more honourable than a thousand Jeremy Corbyns and John McDonnells - because they are TRUE to their left wing socialist Tony Benn/Michael Foot principles. A 56 per cent majority of 2015 Labour voters – seen as pivotal to the result – support the 'REMAIN' campaign whilst 62 per cent of Tory voters want 'OUT', which is WHY the despicable, self-serving, great deceiver David Cameron NEEDS the support of Labour voters to succeed in his plot to keep the UK in the EU. How truly bitterly ironic will it be, if the majority of Tories - the perceived party of Business and Profits - vote to leave the corporatist, anti-democratic, anti-socialist, anti-proletariat EU, while Labour KEEP US IN? I for one, will NEVER forgive the Labour Party should Labour votes enable Cameron to succeed. Here is another excellent explanatory article by Brendan O'Neill - The Left Wing Editor of 'Spiked': The strange death of left-wing Euroscepticism l http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/04...uroscepticism/ and another: http://www.theguardian.com/commentis...u-british-left
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