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Marsh. · 12-06-2016, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy

France has a gun ban but terrorists shoot people. America allows guns and terrorists shoot people.

Seems like the terrorists are the common link, not the gun laws.

The terrorists in Paris weren't French and they weren't legally allowed to easily obtain the weapons to cause their destruction with. Hence why it doesn't happen every week over there.

ThriceShy · 12-06-2016, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh.

Nobody is claiming it will stop crime/murder/attacks in their tracks completely. Evil will always be in the world.

But it doesn't have to be as easy, LEGAL, and as common as it is in America for an all out bloodbath.

Switzerland has more guns owned per head than America. Yet it has virtually no gun crime

Marsh. · 12-06-2016, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Liberty4eva

Yeah, and criminals always obey the gun laws.

Yeah, just as everyone always obeys all laws.

But I'd take incidents like this being a shocking rarity over a sad weekly occurrence.

ThriceShy · 12-06-2016, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh.

The terrorists in Paris weren't French and they weren't legally allowed to easily obtain the weapons to cause their destruction with. Hence why it doesn't happen every week over there.

You think it is difficult for terrorists to obtain guns in a country that bans them?

Marsh. · 12-06-2016, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy

Switzerland has more guns owned per head than America. Yet it has virtually no gun crime

And my neighbour owns more cars than everyone in my family. Your point?

ThriceShy · 12-06-2016, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh.

Yeah, just as everyone always obeys all laws.

But I'd take incidents like this being a shocking rarity over a sad weekly occurrence.

Terror attacks happen no more often in America than they do in France.

Marsh. · 12-06-2016, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy

You think it is difficult for terrorists to obtain guns in a country that bans them?

You think every horrid case of mass shootings in America is some major global terrorist group?

Do some research.

Marsh. · 12-06-2016, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy

Terror attacks happen no more often in America than they do in France.

Gun crime and mass death happens more often in America at the hands of regular citizens than it does a "terrorist".

Tom4784 · 12-06-2016, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy

Switzerland has more guns owned per head than America. Yet it has virtually no gun crime

Incorrect. In terms of guns per capita, the US dwarfs everyone else and is double the size of Switzerland's.

ThriceShy · 12-06-2016, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh.

And my neighbour owns more cars than everyone in my family. Your point?

The point is that it must be the people not the guns.

Denver · 12-06-2016, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Firewire

Zayn Malik is a Muslim and loves the gays

Yet he doesn't act like one

Smithy · 12-06-2016, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam.

Yet he doesn't act like one

Well if thriceshy's right he's probably planning to blow up at his next concert and take all his fans with him

Liberty4eva · 12-06-2016, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Smithy

Because people managed to smuggle arms in across land borders??

You can't compare a country like the US which has HUNDREDS of shootings a year to a country like France where there's stricter gun laws and one mass shooting in recent memory, which was a terrorist attack, it's absurd

The us is the only country with such lax gun laws and the only country where it frequently happens

No, Switzerland has guns and you never hear about gun violence there. If the gun was the problem you would expect there to be mass shootings.

Marsh. · 12-06-2016, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy

The point is that it must be the people not the guns.

Yes. So don't give the people the guns so fecking easily. Quite a simple connection but you got there in the end.

Tom4784 · 12-06-2016, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy

Terror attacks happen no more often in America than they do in France.

Of course they do, you'd be silly to think otherwise. A man going into a school and shooting it up is a terror attack. Someone going into a cinema and murdering people is a terror attack. Every time there's a gun massacre in the US it is an act of terror.

It's not just religious people with brown skin that are capable of terrorism.

ThriceShy · 12-06-2016, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy

Incorrect. In terms of guns per capita, the US dwarfs everyone else and is double the size of Switzerland's.

But guns are legal in Switzerland aren't they. So why doesn't it have the problems that America has?

Marsh. · 12-06-2016, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy

But guns are legal in Switzerland aren't they. So why doesn't it have the problems that America has?

Because they're not American?

ThriceShy · 12-06-2016, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy

Of course they do, you'd be silly to think otherwise. A man going into a school and shooting it up is a terror attack. Someone going into a cinema and murdering people is a terror attack. Every time there's a gun massacre in the US it is an act of terror.

It's not just religious people with brown skin that are capable of terrorism.

The police clearly state that they aren't treating the lone gunman attacks as terrorism. Because they aren't terrorism. Terrorism needs a cause. The sandy hook shooter wasn't a terrorist. Timothy mcveigh was a terrorist. You must see the difference.