[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by jaxie

Do you really, genuinely want to be part of the United States of Europe run by Germany? Or are you toeing the party line as a loyal follower of a political party? I'm not having a go at you here, I'm just curious.

I just can't imagine why anyone would want that, why did we fight two world wars for our freedom to give it away?

I do not see it as United States of Europe but I would prefer to be closer to Europe anyway even moreso than the USA.

I have throughout all my time on tibb and the years before I was on tibb too, been a supporter of the EU, I have never wanted to leave and even didn't particularly want a referendum.

I am not anti foreigners or anti immigration in any way,I believe in coming together not separation.

It wouldn't really matter what party I belonged to on this issue as to toeing the party line,with me wanting to stay in,unless I was a UKIP or DUP in Northern ireland supporter.
Since all the other parties in Parliament are recommending as a block remaining in.

My mind was made up in my early teens,I just have heard nothing at all,( in this shameful and dreadful campaign from both sides), of substance to convince me that being out, the UK would do better or indeed even achieve the same as it is now.