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kirklancaster · 16-06-2016, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele

Indeed, I agree Kirk.
Always safety first.

Hi Joey,

Let's all just hope that this tragedy DOES galvanise Disney to initiate real safety measures with 'cost effectiveness' not being a factor.

Niamh. · 16-06-2016, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Why not invest some of those massive profits and install Alligator 'proof'steel mesh barriers - anti-shark style - at a point off shore? It may not totally eradicate this horrific problem but it WILL reduce the odds of it happening again.

No matter how rare these type of incidents are, just ONE little child's death is unacceptable.

yeah that's a good idea Kirk

Poor kid glad he was found though

Glenn. · 16-06-2016, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by kirklancaster

But do they specifically point out the potential danger from Alligators Glen?

When my children were little, I never cautioned them against any potentially dangerous action without explaining just WHY they should not carry out such actions.

I find that most people take more notice of warnings when the danger is spelled out.

As far as I'm aware no. I know if they spot a gator in the lagoon or any area where guests are they relocate them. Gator attacks are extremely rare in Florida as it is.

It's such a tragedy

Cherie · 16-06-2016, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

I think this was just a tragic man meets nature accident and it does no good to start laying blame tbh.One thing's for sure people will learn from this and it will be less likely to happen again in the future.I know quite alot of things and i know about alligators in Florida and how they're often foundon peers and in peoples gardens and in parks etc however I wouldn't have known they also live in the sea.I struggle to believe that if the parents saw a sign saying there were gators in there that they would let their kids paddle in there.Maybe the signs are'nt clear enough as to the reason you should avoid the water at certain times or maybe the parents did'nt see the signs,Who knows but lessons will definitely be learned.

The signs said no swimming, the kid was paddling near the shore, I've often seen the red flag flying at the beach and while people don't often swim they will go for a paddle near the shore line, the signs should have been a bit more specific as to the actual danger and why there should be no swimming

Niamh. · 16-06-2016, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherie

The signs said no swimming, the kid was paddling near the shore, I've often seen the red flag flying at the beach and while people don't often swim they will go for a paddle near the shore line, the signs should have been a bit more specific as to the actual danger and why there should be no swimming

yes i agree

Cherie · 16-06-2016, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Glenn.

I've paddled in the same water and I completely agree.

This is horrific. That poor family.

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There are multiple signs along the shore that say 'do not enter water'

Glenn. · 16-06-2016, 11:03 AM

Don't judge me

It las to get the sand off my feet.

Cherie · 16-06-2016, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Glenn.

Don't judge me

It las to get the sand off my feet.

I'd stick with the sand unless you want no feet

Glenn. · 16-06-2016, 11:05 AM

I will also add that when I watched the fireworks on the beach the loungers were very close to the waters edge. I can see things being changed dramatically in the coming days.

Niamh. · 16-06-2016, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherie

I'd stick with the sand unless you want no feet

Cal. · 16-06-2016, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Investigators killed four alligators while searching for a boy who was attacked and dragged into a lake Tuesday night

None of the alligators killed showed signs of having attacked the child

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nati...#storylink=cpy

Knew this would happen.

Cherie · 16-06-2016, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Glenn.

I will also add that when I watched the fireworks on the beach the loungers were very close to the waters edge. I can see things being changed dramatically in the coming days.

There was a story about this in the mirror yesterday on iPad or I would find the link where a family watching the fireworks had to flee as a gator came onto the beach, another family informed security about it, it looks like it was an accident waiting to happen

Cal. · 16-06-2016, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Glenn.

The little boy's body was recovered. As tragic as it, is he was intact.

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RIP x

Cal. · 16-06-2016, 11:12 AM

Idg why they're killing alligators tho? Like if you go in alligator invested waters then you might get eaten by an alligator, of course it wasn't the kids fault but the alligator doesn't know that it shouldn't eat people? It's an instinct. The family were at fault not the alligator?

Cal. · 16-06-2016, 11:15 AM

They've closed the beaches until the alligator is captured? He didn't eat the kid so how are they gonna know? Are they just gonna kill ALL the alligators?

Cherie · 16-06-2016, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Who Is She?

Idg why they're killing alligators tho? Like if you go in alligator invested waters then you might get eaten by an alligator, of course it wasn't the kids fault but the alligator doesn't know that it shouldn't eat people? It's an instinct. The family were at fault not the alligator?

There are pics of the lagoon, it looks like a beach! It is as far from looking like croc infested as you could get though

Cal. · 16-06-2016, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherie

There are pics of the lagoon, it looks like a beach! It is as far from looking like croc infested as you could get though

Okay so it wasn't the families fault then - but still - alligators live there? I honestly am baffled as to why they're trapping and euthanizing alligators? It's their natural instinct.

Niamh. · 16-06-2016, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Who Is She?

Idg why they're killing alligators tho? Like if you go in alligator invested waters then you might get eaten by an alligator, of course it wasn't the kids fault but the alligator doesn't know that it shouldn't eat people? It's an instinct. The family were at fault not the alligator?

It's not like alligators are a protected species there though, they're more of a pest, they regularly kill them just to try and cull their population so if they do that anyway, it's not such a big thing to do it to try and find the childs body

Cal. · 16-06-2016, 11:19 AM

The whole classification of a 'pest' is nonsense in itself. I don't think we have the right to decide what is a pest or not but that's a whole other issue.

I'm shocked they kill alligators all the time because they're a nuisance.

Cherie · 16-06-2016, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Who Is She?

Okay so it wasn't the families fault then - but still - alligators live there? I honestly am baffled as to why they're trapping and euthanizing alligators? It's their natural instinct.

I think they did it as they thought the child had been ingested, I understand it's tough on the animals who are minding their own business, I blame Disney really for calling it a Beach Resort...why they needed to put a fake beach near a croc lagoon is anyone's guess ..well it's not it's all about cash but you get my drift

Niamh. · 16-06-2016, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Who Is She?

The whole classification of a 'pest' is nonsense in itself. I don't think we have the right to decide what is a pest or not but that's a whole other issue.

I'm shocked they kill alligators all the time because they're a nuisance.

Would you consider rats a pest and would you support people exterminating them if they got so out of control they were everywhere?