[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

If it even tries to indicate that,it's really sick, I am not going to give it any of my time.

I just hope her Husband and family don't see that but particularly her Children never have to see that anytime in the future.
Disgraceful in my view for it even to be thought of.

Do you really think the International Business Times would suggest this?

It was the comments written by the general public after the article was published.

And you know why people are feeling uneasy. Its because an MP, Maria Eagle tweeted about how witnesses heard him shout 'Britain First'. That tweet has now been withdrawn but not before it went to every news and media channel. People are asking why an MP would make such a claim before anyone else. I mean, she wasn't there. She stated this before it started showing coverage or interviewing witnesses.

Maria Eagle wanted to use Jo's death, before her poor body had even gone cold, as some sort of point score in this political campaign. Its cold callous acts like this that have the conspiracy theorists getting hot behind the collar.

Personally I think she was attacked by a man who was suffering from dangerous mental issues, but for those who don't believe it was as straightforward as that, I don't for a moment believe their grief for Jo is any less than the rest of us.

The climate over Brexit is worse than anything I've ever politically witnessed because already the pro-Remain journalists and broadsheets, are suggesting her death is a consequence of Brexit campaigning.

[AProducer'sWetDream]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Do you really think the International Business Times would suggest this?

It was the comments written by the general public after the article was published.

And you know why people are feeling uneasy. Its because an MP, Maria Eagle tweeted about how witnesses heard him shout 'Britain First'. That tweet has now been withdrawn but not before it went to every news and media channel. People are asking why an MP would make such a claim before anyone else. I mean, she wasn't there. She stated this before it started showing coverage or interviewing witnesses.

Maria Eagle wanted to use Jo's death, before her poor body had even gone cold, as some sort of point score in this political campaign. Its cold callous acts like this that have the conspiracy theorists getting hot behind the collar.

Personally I think she was attacked by a man who was suffering from dangerous mental issues, but for those who don't believe it was as straightforward as that, I don't for a moment believe their grief for Jo is any less than the rest of us.

The climate over Brexit is worse than anything I've ever politically witnessed because already the pro-Remain journalists and broadsheets, are suggesting her death is a consequence of Brexit campaigning.

She actually retweeted an article by a local news outlet. So no, she didn't make any claim whatsoever, she simply cited a legitimate news source which was making that claim.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by AProducer'sWetDream

She actually retweeted an article by a local news outlet. So no, she didn't make any claim whatsoever, she simply cited a legitimate news source which was making that claim.

I have no idea. All I know is, this is what some people are saying. I'm glad you at least cleared that up for me though.

[AProducer'sWetDream]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

I have no idea. All I know is, this is what some people are saying. I'm glad you at least cleared that up for me though.

Unfortunately that's the way these thing go- theories and rumours are thrown around online like they're facts before we know a thing about what happened. I do think, though, that the best thing is for people, especially public figures, to not say anything until we learn fully what went on.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Do you really think the International Business Times would suggest this?

It was the comments written by the general public after the article was published.

And you know why people are feeling uneasy. Its because an MP, Maria Eagle tweeted about how witnesses heard him shout 'Britain First'. That tweet has now been withdrawn but not before it went to every news and media channel. People are asking why an MP would make such a claim before anyone else. I mean, she wasn't there. She stated this before it started showing coverage or interviewing witnesses.

Maria Eagle wanted to use Jo's death, before her poor body had even gone cold, as some sort of point score in this political campaign. Its cold callous acts like this that have the conspiracy theorists getting hot behind the collar.

Personally I think she was attacked by a man who was suffering from dangerous mental issues, but for those who don't believe it was as straightforward as that, I don't for a moment believe their grief for Jo is any less than the rest of us.

The climate over Brexit is worse than anything I've ever politically witnessed because already the pro-Remain journalists and broadsheets, are suggesting her death is a consequence of Brexit campaigning.

People said on the news to reporters that it was heard that was shouted.

We do not know what is behind the attack on her,we need the Police to get to the bottom of that.
The tweet will have been withdrawn, in case it becomes relevant from the Police interviewing this man and as to the statements from any witnesses to then become evidence.

I have found universal condemnation of this barbaric murder and from supporters and representatives of all parties.
The Conservative party and UKIP too have apparently said they will not even contest the by election when it is held.

I am not going to speculate on this in any way until the Police tell us their findings and what then goes to court as evidence.
Until then we have no idea what the thinking was in this man's head as to this but it will come out I am sure after the Police are done with him.

I am not interested in any publication or anyone presenting this any other way than a brutal murder of an innocent by someone who planned the crime.
Also Jo was a Labour MP, the party has felt a massive earthquake got off with her murder and that has hit near all other parties too and their leaders and MPs.
In shock people say and do inappropriate things.

Honestly,let's hope her Husband never looks at this thread.
We know noting really until the Police are finished with this man and it may be we learn not that much until his trial.

I as a Labour member am only mourning Jo. all my thoughts are with her Husband and children.
Who have enough to cope with without some spouting speculation of this, that and the other.
The Police have witnesses, they have a man in custody,identified by witnesses as the man who went off after killing Jo.

We need to just let the Police do their job and then get back to the Nation on this,they'll have the witness statements, they will be learning for sure what was seen, who was seen and what was said.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

People said on the news to reporters that it was heard that was shouted.

We do not know what is behind the attack on her,we need the Police to get to the bottom of that.
The tweet will have been withdrawn, in case it becomes relevant from the Police interviewing this man and as to the statements from any witnesses to then become evidence.

I have found universal condemnation of this barbaric murder and from supporters and representatives of all parties.
The Conservative party and UKIP too have apparently said they will not even contest the by election when it is held.

I am not going to speculate on this in any way until the Police tell us their findings and what then goes to court as evidence.
Until then we have no idea what the thinking was in this man's head as to this but it will come out I am sure after the Police are done with him.

I am not interested in any publication or anyone presenting this any other way than a brutal murder of an innocent by someone who planned the crime.
Also Jo was a Labour MP, the party has felt a massive earthquake got off with her murder and that has hit near all other parties too and their leaders and MPs.
In shock people say and do inappropriate things.

Honestly,let's hope her Husband never looks at this thread.
We know noting really until the Police are finished with this man and it may be we learn not that much until his trial.

I as a Labour member am only mourning Jo. all my thoughts are with her Husband and children.
Who have enough to cope with without some spouting speculation of this, that and the other.
The Police have witnesses, they have a man in custody,identified by witnesses as the man who went off after killing Jo.

We need to just let the Police do their job and then get back to the Nation on this,they'll have the witness statements, they will be learning for sure what was seen, who was seen and what was said.

Joey, speculation and conspiracy theories are in pretty poor taste at this time.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

People said on the news to reporters that it was heard that was shouted.

We do not know what is behind the attack on her,we need the Police to get to the bottom of that.
The tweet will have been withdrawn, in case it becomes relevant from the Police interviewing this man and as to the statements from any witnesses to then become evidence.

I have found universal condemnation of this barbaric murder and from supporters and representatives of all parties.
The Conservative party and UKIP too have apparently said they will not even contest the by election when it is held.

I am not going to speculate on this in any way until the Police tell us their findings and what then goes to court as evidence.
Until then we have no idea what the thinking was in this man's head as to this but it will come out I am sure after the Police are done with him.

I am not interested in any publication or anyone presenting this any other way than a brutal murder of an innocent by someone who planned the crime.
Also Jo was a Labour MP, the party has felt a massive earthquake got off with her murder and that has hit near all other parties too and their leaders and MPs.
In shock people say and do inappropriate things.

Honestly,let's hope her Husband never looks at this thread.
We know noting really until the Police are finished with this man and it may be we learn not that much until his trial.

I as a Labour member am only mourning Jo. all my thoughts are with her Husband and children.
Who have enough to cope with without some spouting speculation of this, that and the other.
The Police have witnesses, they have a man in custody,identified by witnesses as the man who went off after killing Jo.

We need to just let the Police do their job and then get back to the Nation on this,they'll have the witness statements, they will be learning for sure what was seen, who was seen and what was said.

This thread is mild compared to many of the public comments written at the end of online report pages. Whilst you may not want to read such comments because they offend you, I always read the public comments of any article I've bothered to read because I like to get a wider view of public reaction.

I think conspiracy theorists can make a conspiracy out of anything. Sometimes they may be right but most of the time I suspect they're wrong. The ones who are most vocal are the investigative journalists that get a hunch something isn't quite right. I see nothing wrong with that providing it remains sensible and with provable evidence.

[arista]

The 52 year old killer
had mental problems
of the last 5 years had been working on parks and gardens
he had said Garden Work was better for his health.
Before that he was on Medication.
he is not a member of that Right Wing group
but appears to have bought nazi books from USA.


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[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Now that was a very fishy business

Wasn't it just !! it happened once, nothing to stop it happening again

[Marsh.]

Some DISGUSTING comments in this thread. Have some bloody respect.

[joeysteele]

I just feel and maybe it's me and I shouldn't, that this thread started with the news an MP had been shot,it then went on to after she tragically died.

I feel this thread is better used to express sadness, pay tribute to her life and allow those who wish to,to express their thoughts and sympathies for her Husband,her children and her wider family.

Not have it leading speculation as to conspiracy theories from journalists, publications or any other sources.
I say again,I will wait for the 'official' Police investigation to be completed.

I applaud all the political leaders and parties who have all come together and demonstrated their horror, shock and grief at this tragedy of a young promising life lost,followed by their concern only for her family and particularly her Husband and her 2 young children.

This was a truly beautiful thread for a while, as those who wished to came on to express that same shock, horror,grief at times and sympathy for her family did so.

I make not the slightest apology for wishing it had stayed on that beautiful track, as I believe the opening post and reason for the thread, was meant to be.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

He was known to be mentally ill. There is an article from a few years ago describing how he was helping out as a volunteer to help with his long term mental illness.

Yeah...I don't care. He was stable enough to be part of far right and was stable enough to learn how to create gun through American sources. And "Britain First" those should be the main talking points regarding not this man

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo

Yeah...I don't care. He was stable enough to be part of far right and was stable enough to learn how to create gun through American sources. And "Britain First" those should be the main talking points regarding not this man

Where is the evidence that he said "Britain First"?

And what if he is right wing? Are you saying his behaviour reflects on all members of the right?

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Some DISGUSTING comments in this thread. Have some bloody respect.

Which comments have been disgusting?

[AnnieK]

Absolute tragic waste of a life....A daughter...mother...sister...friend etc. Thoughts are with those who knew her. Don't give a **** who did it....or why. Knowing won't bring her back.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

Where is the evidence that he said "Britain First"?

And what if he is right wing? Are you saying his behaviour reflects on all members of the right?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...unt-death.html

Nah his behaviour doesn't reflect all of the members behaviours but his beliefs does provide him with motive to stab Jo Cox. He was stable enough to make the decision to stab and stable enough to do research for gun, and to join groups. In America this would be first degree murder. He probably will get a less harsh sentence here.

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...unt-death.html

Nah his behaviour doesn't reflect all of the members behaviours but his beliefs does provide him with motive to stab Jo Cox. He was stable enough to make the decision to stab and stable enough to do research for gun, and to join groups. In America this would be first degree murder. He probably will get a less harsh sentence here.

He was totally deranged. Even the most ardent right wingers don't shoot a woman 3 times and then stab her 6 times with a foot long knife.

Those are not the actions of a stable person. We know he had long term mental illness.

[the truth]

she made a great speech here, got me quite emotional, she was idealistic, determined, clear thinking well read down to earth and she lived on a barge which imo is pretty rock and roll. she was absolutely beautiful too with a wonderfully fit vibrant body. Shed worked with obama in america for a while too yet still she dared criticizing his syrian debacle. great person, enormous loss

[DemolitionRed]

I saw a video today that was filmed a few weeks ago. It was a flotilla going up the Thames with Bob Geldof shouting at Farage through a loud speaker.

The sad thing was, Jo was there on her small motorboat waving a flag. She looked so happy.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

He was totally deranged. Even the most ardent right wingers don't shoot a woman 3 times and then stab her 6 times with a foot long knife.

Those are not the actions of a stable person. We know he had long term mental illness.

Shouting Britain first, shows someone conscious enough about what's making them angry and shooting then stabbing shows the level of anger, not insanity. Believe it or not plenty of people have gone to prison for shooting or stabbing more than they needed to due to anger, not insanity.

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo

Shouting Britain first, shows someone conscious enough about what's making them angry and shooting then stabbing shows the level of anger, not insanity. Believe it or not plenty of people have gone to prison for shooting or stabbing more than they needed to due to anger, not insanity.

Who cares what his motive was?

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

Who cares what his motive was?

Family, friends and a good portion of the public

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo

Family, friends and a good portion of the public

So what is the next step? If we find out he was a right wing extremist, what happens then? We know he is going to prison for the rest of his life anyway.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

So what is the next step? If we find out he was a right wing extremist, what happens then? We know he is going to prison for the rest of his life anyway.

Keep a close eye on the Britain first groups. This is how terrorist organisations start-when they oppose certain politics. He could be the first of many ready to explore. Who knows maybe here planning something big if we vote to stay.

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo

Keep a close eye on the Britain first groups. This is how terrorist organisations start-when they oppose certain politics. He could be the first of many ready to explore. Who knows maybe here planning something big if we vote to stay.

Latest news seems to be that he sought help for his mental problems on the night before the murder. He was turned away and told to make an appointment and come back the next day.

That is the real scandal about this. For the left to try and use this to score political points is absolutely despicable.