[Johnnyuk123]

Originally Posted by arista

He Was just Live on GMBHD

I love him arista! If they don't give him a Knighthood for giving the people their country back it will speak volumes of the corrupt elite.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123

I love him arista! If they don't give him a Knighthood for giving the people their country back it will speak volumes of the corrupt elite.

Yes thats why so many Labour Voters voted Leave

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123

I love him arista! If they don't give him a Knighthood for giving the people their country back it will speak volumes of the corrupt elite.

He is the most honest politician in the UK and the best orator.

[Smithy]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

He is the most honest politician in the UK and the best orator.

No he isn't, he lied about being able to spend £350 million a week on the NHS

[arista]

Originally Posted by Smithy

No he isn't, he lied about being able to spend £350 million a week on the NHS

That was Boris on his Bus


Not Nigel

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by arista

That was Boris on his Bus


Not Nigel

It's still a lie arista one of many I think.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

It's still a lie arista one of many I think.

No its the right amount but without the refund in it.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by arista

No its the right amount but without the refund in it.

NHS wont get any for at least 2 years and Farage himself said it was a mistake for the leave campaign to say that the money would go to the NHS,even after 2 years they are not guaranteed that,so they lied.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Smithy

No he isn't, he lied about being able to spend £350 million a week on the NHS

He did not lie Smithy. Our wasted £20 billion pounds per year to the failed mess that is the EU (HALF A TRILLION POUNDS UP TO NOW!) COULD and SHOULD be spent right here in this country.

Where Nigel Farage erred, was in saying it WOULD be spent here, and his error was compounded by the fact that he is not in any position of power which would enable him to make that decision.

What Farage has done, is made it possible for the electorate of tbis country to impose their collective will upon the Government and FORCE them to allocate these collossal sums to the NHS and Education, and to our services, because we KNOW about this money. We KNOW the amounts. It is NOT hidden, and the Government can be made publicly accountable for it.

The Government cannot secretly utilise this money on other matters - in the way Cameron covertly paid over £34 billion pounds of UK taxpayers money to the EU to help it make good the £259 billion deficit in the EU Budget caused by fraud and embezzlement - we did NOT know about this until AFTER the event, but this £20 Billion+ PA is different.

We KNOW about it and it is money which the UK Treasury cannot hide, so it is now up to us as voters and taxpayers to ensure that we FORCE them to spend on the NHS etc.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

He did not lie Smithy. Our wasted £20 billion pounds per year to the failed mess that is the EU (HALF A TRILLION POUNDS UP TO NOW!) COULD and SHOULD be spent right here in this country.

Where Nigel Farage erred, was in saying it WOULD be spent here, and his error was compounded by the fact that he is not in any position of power which would enable him to make that decision.

What Farage has done, is made it possible for the electorate of tbis country to impose their collective will upon the Government and FORCE them to allocate these collossal sums to the NHS and Education, and to our services, because we KNOW about this money. We KNOW the amounts. It is NOT hidden, and the Government can be made publicly accountable for it.

The Government cannot secretly utilise this money on other matters - in the way Cameron covertly paid over £34 billion pounds of UK taxpayers money to the EU to help it make good the £259 billion deficit in the EU Budget caused by fraud and embezzlement - we did NOT know about this until AFTER the event, but this £20 Billion+ PA is different.

We KNOW about it and it is money which the UK Treasury cannot hide, so it is now up to us as voters and taxpayers to ensure that we FORCE them to spend on the NHS etc.

The money will just go into the MP's back pockets instead of being spent on the NHS or any other fundamental services.

Farage, Cameron, Corbyn, Sturgeon etc do not care about the people's health that's in the lower classes, that just needs to be accepted sadly.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

He did not lie Smithy. Our wasted £20 billion pounds per year to the failed mess that is the EU (HALF A TRILLION POUNDS UP TO NOW!) COULD and SHOULD be spent right here in this country.

Where Nigel Farage erred, was in saying it WOULD be spent here, and his error was compounded by the fact that he is not in any position of power which would enable him to make that decision.

What Farage has done, is made it possible for the electorate of tbis country to impose their collective will upon the Government and FORCE them to allocate these collossal sums to the NHS and Education, and to our services, because we KNOW about this money. We KNOW the amounts. It is NOT hidden, and the Government can be made publicly accountable for it.

The Government cannot secretly utilise this money on other matters - in the way Cameron covertly paid over £34 billion pounds of UK taxpayers money to the EU to help it make good the £259 billion deficit in the EU Budget caused by fraud and embezzlement - we did NOT know about this until AFTER the event, but this £20 Billion+ PA is different.

We KNOW about it and it is money which the UK Treasury cannot hide, so it is now up to us as voters and taxpayers to ensure that we FORCE them to spend on the NHS etc.

You honestly believe a majority of the electorate give a flying **** about the NHS? If that were the case they wouldn't have put the Tories into power on their own a year ago. They're far too concerned with the 'effects' of immigration rather than what the actual causes of NHS failures are - underfunding

The NHS isn't going to see a penny of this money and I've been baffled as to why the Leave campaign kept using it as a reason to leave, as if this government has any interest whatsoever in spending it on the things which need it the most, namely the health service, the education system and housing. They don't, it'll disappear into the pockets of the minority and we'll be no better off for it - and they won't even have as many restrictions on what policies they can impose on said electorate since we'll no longer have the protections the EU afforded us

The hard line Tories waiting in the wings of power must be frothing at the mouth about what they'll soon be able to do to the working people of Britain

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Jack_

You honestly believe a majority of the electorate give a flying **** about the NHS? If that were the case they wouldn't have put the Tories into power on their own a year ago. They're far too concerned with the 'effects' of immigration rather than what the actual causes of NHS failures are - underfunding

The NHS isn't going to see a penny of this money and I've been baffled as to why the Leave campaign kept using it as a reason to leave, as if this government has any interest whatsoever in spending it on the things which need it the most, namely the health service, the education system and housing. They don't, it'll disappear into the pockets of the minority and we'll be no better off for it - and they won't even have as many restrictions on what policies they can impose on said electorate since we'll no longer have the protections the EU afforded us

The hard line Tories waiting in the wings of power must be frothing at the mouth about what they'll soon be able to do to the working people of Britain

First of all Jack, over 63% of the British Electorate did NOT vote the Tories into power a year ago.

Secondly, I do believe that the majority of the electorate do care about the NHS, and my belief is bolstered by the fact that the working classes and the disenfranchised are in the majority in this country, therefore THEY make up most of that 63% who did not vote Tory, and being working class or disenfranchised, THEY are also the ones who most need and use the NHS.

Making a statement that the above majority are "far too concerned with the 'effects' of immigration rather than what the actual causes of NHS failures are - underfunding" is frankly ludicrous, contrary to the huge public concerns about the NHS, and cannot be substantiated, and is, therefore, mere opinion, which is no more valid than anyone else's which may oppose what you claim.

As for: "The NHS isn't going to see a penny of this money" - in the very post which you are responding to, I outlined just how WE the public must collectively FORCE the Government to utilise this money for the NHS and other ailing, cash-starved services.

The Government are NOT going to freely elect to allocate these sums to the NHS and other services, but they CAN be forced to, by 'people power' - EXACTLY as we forced another Government to do a U Turn over The Poll Tax.

I'm afraid that when it comes to your other point - about 'EU Protections' - we must agree to disagree, because my years of exhaustive research into the EU, persuades me that, far from protecting the NHS, the EU -- in league with the USA -- were fully intent on privatising the best elements of the NHS, and dismantling the rest, and all via the TTIP agreement that both have been actively, if covertly working towards for years.

[Johnnyuk123]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

He is the most honest politician in the UK and the best orator.

No Kirk Nigel is way much more than that... he is a God among God's!

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123

I love him arista! If they don't give him a Knighthood for giving the people their country back it will speak volumes of the corrupt elite.

Well in reality,Farage didn't give us our country back,David Cameron did,HE called the referendum, Farage has already backtracked on money that went to the EU would be going to the NHS, saying that was a mistake !!!

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Well in reality,Farage didn't give us our country back,David Cameron did,HE called the referendum, Farage has already backtracked on money that went to the EU would be going to the NHS, saying that was a mistake !!!

If not for Farage and how strong UKIP looked at one stage in the election...Cameron would not have **** himself about losing voters to them and as such promised the referendum to begin with