Home Menu

Site Navigation


Notices

Serious Debates & News Debate and discussion about political, moral, philosophical, celebrity and news topics.

Register to reply Log in to reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 25-06-2016, 01:46 PM #1851
Johnnyuk123 Johnnyuk123 is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 18,443

Favourites (more):
BB14: Gina
CBB 11: Speidi


Johnnyuk123 Johnnyuk123 is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 18,443

Favourites (more):
BB14: Gina
CBB 11: Speidi


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet View Post
Not young people thinking everything is about them and then going in a huff when they dont get their own way?

Half of them couldn't be arsed to get out of bed and vote LT.
Johnnyuk123 is offline  
Old 25-06-2016, 01:47 PM #1852
_Tom_'s Avatar
_Tom_ _Tom_ is offline
Feeling DiskInserted💿
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 5,865

Favourites (more):
BB2024: Marcello
BB2023: Trish


_Tom_ _Tom_ is offline
Feeling DiskInserted💿
_Tom_'s Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 5,865

Favourites (more):
BB2024: Marcello
BB2023: Trish


Default

Whatever happened to "back of the queue"?

_Tom_ is offline  
Old 25-06-2016, 01:48 PM #1853
_Tom_'s Avatar
_Tom_ _Tom_ is offline
Feeling DiskInserted💿
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 5,865

Favourites (more):
BB2024: Marcello
BB2023: Trish


_Tom_ _Tom_ is offline
Feeling DiskInserted💿
_Tom_'s Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 5,865

Favourites (more):
BB2024: Marcello
BB2023: Trish


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123 View Post
Half of them couldn't be arsed to get out of bed and vote LT.
75% of the younger generation didn't bother to actually turn up and vote.
_Tom_ is offline  
Old 25-06-2016, 01:49 PM #1854
Denver's Avatar
Denver Denver is offline
I Cant Breathe
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: HomeTown
Posts: 57,153

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Tom
Strictly 2020: Bill Bailey


Denver Denver is offline
I Cant Breathe
Denver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: HomeTown
Posts: 57,153

Favourites (more):
BB2023: Tom
Strictly 2020: Bill Bailey


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dezzy View Post
We should make sure to stock up on cans of 'I told you so' Cherie, we'll be using them in abundance in the coming months
This is where the ignorance is tbh people who voted remain expect changes immediately when in reality its a marathon not a sprint
__________________

Spoiler:

[/CENTER]

Denver is offline  
Old 25-06-2016, 01:55 PM #1855
Crimson Dynamo's Avatar
Crimson Dynamo Crimson Dynamo is offline
The voice of reason
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 104,540


Crimson Dynamo Crimson Dynamo is offline
The voice of reason
Crimson Dynamo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 104,540


Default

I can't wait for Nigel to make his first speech back in the European parliament

That will be worth watching
Crimson Dynamo is offline  
Old 25-06-2016, 01:56 PM #1856
Crimson Dynamo's Avatar
Crimson Dynamo Crimson Dynamo is offline
The voice of reason
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 104,540


Crimson Dynamo Crimson Dynamo is offline
The voice of reason
Crimson Dynamo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 104,540


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Adam. View Post
This is where the ignorance is tbh people who voted remain expect changes immediately when in reality its a marathon not a sprint
indeed

Most of the young ones think we have left the EU already

Crimson Dynamo is offline  
Old 25-06-2016, 01:59 PM #1857
Cherie's Avatar
Cherie Cherie is offline
This Witch doesn't burn
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 67,227

Favourites (more):
Strictly 2020: Bill Bailey
BB19: Sian


Cherie Cherie is offline
This Witch doesn't burn
Cherie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 67,227

Favourites (more):
Strictly 2020: Bill Bailey
BB19: Sian


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet View Post
indeed

Most of the young ones think we have left the EU already


Excuse you though I am young


No ignorance involved, if we sign up to the single market, freedom of movement is part and parcel, how many of the 17 million voted for that?
Cherie is offline  
Old 25-06-2016, 02:05 PM #1858
Tom4784 Tom4784 is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 45,095
Tom4784 Tom4784 is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 45,095
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Adam. View Post
This is where the ignorance is tbh people who voted remain expect changes immediately when in reality its a marathon not a sprint
It's not ignorance (I like the not-so-subtle dig though, if this situation was reversed you'd be screaming about being bullied but okay.) The whole Leave campaign was built on the idea of putting an end to unlimited EU immigration but now they've got their way the Leave camp is going back on that, it's not something that's going to change since we need the EU market and will have to play by EU's rules to access it. Remainers have been saying this for months.

I said that the Leave campaign was built on nothing more than idealism and I'm already being proved correct, two campaign promises have already been mooted and we're not even a week past the vote yet.

Last edited by Tom4784; 25-06-2016 at 02:06 PM.
Tom4784 is offline  
Old 25-06-2016, 02:10 PM #1859
Crimson Dynamo's Avatar
Crimson Dynamo Crimson Dynamo is offline
The voice of reason
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 104,540


Crimson Dynamo Crimson Dynamo is offline
The voice of reason
Crimson Dynamo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 104,540


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dezzy View Post
It's not ignorance (I like the not-so-subtle dig though, if this situation was reversed you'd be screaming about being bullied but okay.) The whole Leave campaign was built on the idea of putting an end to unlimited EU immigration but now they've got their way the Leave camp is going back on that, it's not something that's going to change since we need the EU market and will have to play by EU's rules to access it. Remainers have been saying this for months.

I said that the Leave campaign was built on nothing more than idealism and I'm already being proved correct, two campaign promises have already been mooted and we're not even a week past the vote yet.

not Dezzy being proved right again....




Jan will be shocked
Crimson Dynamo is offline  
Old 25-06-2016, 02:16 PM #1860
billy123 billy123 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Out here in the perimeter
Posts: 10,448


billy123 billy123 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Out here in the perimeter
Posts: 10,448


Default

I just saw this posted elsewhere by Economist and entrepreneur Roger Hamilton that works in Hong Kong.
I wish people would stop whining and crying it isnt helping anyone least of all yourself.


Quote:
I’ve just landed in London to learn that the UK has voted for ‪#‎brexit‬. What’s next? Here’s one possible outcome…
In a similarly dramatic referendum 50 years ago, Singapore citizens voted to leave British colonial rule and join the new Federation of Malaysia. But following race riots that ran out of control, Singapore was expelled from Malaysia and left as an island to fend for itself.
At the time, the skeptics saw a bleak future for Singapore.
At the time, the leader of Singapore, Lee Kuan Yew spoke with tears on National TV: "Every time we look back on this moment when we signed this agreement which severed Singapore from Malaysia, it will be a moment of anguish… because all my life... I have believed in merger and the unity of these two territories.”
Then, realizing Singapore had no one to depend on but themselves, Lee Kuan Yew decided to reinvent Singapore - and focus the newly independent island on becoming a world leading nation.
He looked beyond their relationship with the British Empire and Malaysia to the rest of the world. He looked beyond the present to 50 years in the future.
Suddenly, what looked like a crisis was turned into an opportunity, with SIngapore being the first nation to be deliberately designed for the 21st Century.
50 years after that separation and new focus, here’s what that separation has led to…
Today Singapore has been recognized globally as:
> The No.1 most educated country, according to the OECD Global Education Report.
> The most innovative country, based on the Global Innovation Index published by INSEAD, WIPO & Cornell University.
> The world’s easiest country to do business in, according to the World Bank (7 years in a row)
> The No.1 country with the best business environment, according to the Economist Intelligence Unit.
> The No.1 city with the best investment potential, according to BERI.
> The most transparent country in the world, according to the Global Competitiveness Report.
> The 2nd most competitive country in the world, according to the World Economic Forum.
> The 2nd most technologically advanced country, according to the WEF Global Information Technology Report.
> And the 3rd richest country in the world, according to Forbes, with one of the lowest levels of poverty and one of the highest density of millionaires in the world.
Singapore has achieved all of this 50 years after a separation that was seen at the time as a major crisis from which it might never recover.
It was achieved by focusing at future potential over existing partnerships and by focusing at the advantage of speed over scale. They set their own rules based on where the world was going instead of where the world was.
Of course, there’s huge differences between the UK and Singapore. But there’s also huge difference in the times we now live in. With the growing waves of technological and economic change, it’s the most nimble nations that will win in the next 50 years.
And while it will be the ones that can move rapidly with the times that will win, it will be the ones tied down in regulation and bureaucracy that will be left behind.
Of course, this is just one possible outcome from the current situation. The UK could also get caught up in bitter in-fighting and holding on to the past. It could be left behind in a wave of anti-immigration and protectionism. It could trip up over a fatalistic focus on short term currency and market swings. Or get stuck in everyone spending more time complaining about the weather than preparing for a sunny future.
Which path the UK takes is up to its citizens. But to choose to be a world leading nation of the new tomorrow is as valid a path as any.
In the midst of the current chaos and divide, there now lies an incredible opportunity for the UK to unite, put the past behind it, and reinvent itself for the future ahead.
And just as countries can reinvent themselves, against all odds, so can you.


“The future belongs to those who prepare for it today.” ~ Malcolm X
Wring your knickers out cheer up and get on with it FFS.

I do also agree though that some of the gloating on here is pretty pathetic.

Last edited by billy123; 25-06-2016 at 02:24 PM.
billy123 is offline  
Old 25-06-2016, 02:19 PM #1861
Headie's Avatar
Headie Headie is offline
Inactive
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Celeb hangouts
Posts: 47,313

Favourites (more):
BBCanada 9: Victoria
RPDR UK 2: Tayce


Headie Headie is offline
Inactive
Headie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Celeb hangouts
Posts: 47,313

Favourites (more):
BBCanada 9: Victoria
RPDR UK 2: Tayce


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by _Tom_ View Post
Whatever happened to "back of the queue"?

We'll still be back of the queue, this is just damage control on both sides
__________________
Headie is offline  
Old 25-06-2016, 02:20 PM #1862
Johnnyuk123 Johnnyuk123 is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 18,443

Favourites (more):
BB14: Gina
CBB 11: Speidi


Johnnyuk123 Johnnyuk123 is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 18,443

Favourites (more):
BB14: Gina
CBB 11: Speidi


Default

Johnnyuk123 is offline  
Old 25-06-2016, 02:23 PM #1863
Cherie's Avatar
Cherie Cherie is offline
This Witch doesn't burn
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 67,227

Favourites (more):
Strictly 2020: Bill Bailey
BB19: Sian


Cherie Cherie is offline
This Witch doesn't burn
Cherie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 67,227

Favourites (more):
Strictly 2020: Bill Bailey
BB19: Sian


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bobnot View Post
I just saw this posted elsewhere by Economist and entrepreneur Roger Hamilton that works in Hong Kong.
I wish people would stop whining and crying it isnt helping anyone least of all yourself.




Wring your knickers out cheer up and get on with it FFS.
It's a discussion forum we are getting on with it :
Cherie is offline  
Old 25-06-2016, 02:36 PM #1864
arista's Avatar
arista arista is online now
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 186,047
arista arista is online now
Senior Member
arista's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 186,047
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123 View Post

I like the Facebook Lefties


Like the USA Black Reporter
and the Hilary For Prison T-Shirt at $9.99

Last edited by arista; 25-06-2016 at 02:46 PM.
arista is online now  
Old 25-06-2016, 03:01 PM #1865
_Tom_'s Avatar
_Tom_ _Tom_ is offline
Feeling DiskInserted💿
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 5,865

Favourites (more):
BB2024: Marcello
BB2023: Trish


_Tom_ _Tom_ is offline
Feeling DiskInserted💿
_Tom_'s Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 5,865

Favourites (more):
BB2024: Marcello
BB2023: Trish


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123 View Post
PJW spot on as always
_Tom_ is offline  
Old 25-06-2016, 03:09 PM #1866
Jack_ Jack_ is offline
oh fack off
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: England
Posts: 47,434

Favourites (more):
Survivor 40: Tony
IAC2019: Ian Wright


Jack_ Jack_ is offline
oh fack off
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: England
Posts: 47,434

Favourites (more):
Survivor 40: Tony
IAC2019: Ian Wright


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by arista View Post
Yes something Young Jack
skips
I don't skip it at all, political apathy is a terrible thing and it's especially bad amongst young people which makes me sad, but as with everything it has a cause and one that needs to be addressed.

Politics just doesn't speak to a lot of young people, and the government are intent on making sure of that. Politics and sociology should be core subjects from the start of secondary school to engage students in the world around them but in typical fashion it's actually going the other way, and such important subjects are being downgraded and don't carry the same weight that other more ~prestigious~ ones do.

Unfortunately it's a cyclical thing. Political parties tend to target their more beneficiary policies towards those who are retired because they're more likely to vote and young people therefore have to carry the burden, so as a result they feel marginalised and disaffected and so don't vote. They don't vote, and nothing changes. It's a difficult problem to address but you can't expect young people to take an interest in it when not only do they feel like it either doesn't speak for them or is irrelevant, but they are presented with very little opportunities to learn about it.
Jack_ is offline  
Old 25-06-2016, 03:40 PM #1867
arista's Avatar
arista arista is online now
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 186,047
arista arista is online now
Senior Member
arista's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 186,047
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack_ View Post
I don't skip it at all, political apathy is a terrible thing and it's especially bad amongst young people which makes me sad, but as with everything it has a cause and one that needs to be addressed.

Politics just doesn't speak to a lot of young people, and the government are intent on making sure of that. Politics and sociology should be core subjects from the start of secondary school to engage students in the world around them but in typical fashion it's actually going the other way, and such important subjects are being downgraded and don't carry the same weight that other more ~prestigious~ ones do.

Unfortunately it's a cyclical thing. Political parties tend to target their more beneficiary policies towards those who are retired because they're more likely to vote and young people therefore have to carry the burden, so as a result they feel marginalised and disaffected and so don't vote. They don't vote, and nothing changes. It's a difficult problem to address but you can't expect young people to take an interest in it when not only do they feel like it either doesn't speak for them or is irrelevant, but they are presented with very little opportunities to learn about it.

OK Young Jack
Sorry
arista is online now  
Old 25-06-2016, 03:41 PM #1868
_Tom_'s Avatar
_Tom_ _Tom_ is offline
Feeling DiskInserted💿
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 5,865

Favourites (more):
BB2024: Marcello
BB2023: Trish


_Tom_ _Tom_ is offline
Feeling DiskInserted💿
_Tom_'s Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 5,865

Favourites (more):
BB2024: Marcello
BB2023: Trish


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hayden View Post
We'll still be back of the queue, this is just damage control on both sides
He's backtracked on everything he said during the EU referendum campaign. As usual - Obama meddled in another country's elections and backed the losing side.
_Tom_ is offline  
Old 25-06-2016, 03:54 PM #1869
Black Dagger's Avatar
Black Dagger Black Dagger is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Stockport, England
Posts: 44,991

Favourites (more):
BB2024: Ali
CBB2024: Louis Walsh


Black Dagger Black Dagger is offline
Senior Member
Black Dagger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Stockport, England
Posts: 44,991

Favourites (more):
BB2024: Ali
CBB2024: Louis Walsh


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123 View Post
What a wanker.
Black Dagger is offline  
Old 25-06-2016, 04:00 PM #1870
Northern Monkey Northern Monkey is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 13,269

Favourites (more):
CBB21: Ann Widdecombe
BB18: Tom


Northern Monkey Northern Monkey is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 13,269

Favourites (more):
CBB21: Ann Widdecombe
BB18: Tom


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123 View Post
Northern Monkey is offline  
Old 25-06-2016, 04:03 PM #1871
arista's Avatar
arista arista is online now
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 186,047
arista arista is online now
Senior Member
arista's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 186,047
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by _LucasMichael_ View Post
What a wanker.

Fast Forward
to the USA Black Reporter
in a proper studio
arista is online now  
Old 25-06-2016, 04:30 PM #1872
_Tom_'s Avatar
_Tom_ _Tom_ is offline
Feeling DiskInserted💿
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 5,865

Favourites (more):
BB2024: Marcello
BB2023: Trish


_Tom_ _Tom_ is offline
Feeling DiskInserted💿
_Tom_'s Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 5,865

Favourites (more):
BB2024: Marcello
BB2023: Trish


Default

_Tom_ is offline  
Old 25-06-2016, 04:32 PM #1873
Crimson Dynamo's Avatar
Crimson Dynamo Crimson Dynamo is offline
The voice of reason
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 104,540


Crimson Dynamo Crimson Dynamo is offline
The voice of reason
Crimson Dynamo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 104,540


Default

Not that ridiculous see saw advert backfiring

Crimson Dynamo is offline  
Old 25-06-2016, 04:37 PM #1874
arista's Avatar
arista arista is online now
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 186,047
arista arista is online now
Senior Member
arista's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 186,047
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet View Post
Not that ridiculous see saw advert backfiring


Yes and he is a Polish Punk Rocker
arista is online now  
Old 25-06-2016, 07:07 PM #1875
kirklancaster's Avatar
kirklancaster kirklancaster is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 13,378


kirklancaster kirklancaster is offline
Senior Member
kirklancaster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 13,378


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by _Tom_ View Post
PERHAPS THEY COULD HAVE USED THIS POLISH TATTOED SKINHEAD INSTEAD - OR ANY ONE OF THE 6,000 OTHER IMMIGRANT SERIOUS CRIMINALS WHICH THE UK CANNOT DEPORT BECAUSE OF THE EU?



Polish rapist who threw man in front of a bus had slipped into UK unchecked 2 DAYS earlier

A POLISH rapist with a criminal record stretching back two decades was able to sneak into Britain and beat a man with learning difficulties before throwing him in front of a bus.

Damian Pankiewicz, 37, had been in the country just 48 hours when, high on drugs, he attacked the innocent bystander at a bus stop in south London.

The EU citizen, who has convictions for rape and violent assaults, punched the man unconscious then grabbed him by the neck before dragging him into the path of a double decker bus on a busy Brixton road.

The driver screeched to a halt, only just missing the unconscious man.

The 52-year-old victim suffered bleeding on the brain, a broken leg and broken ribs and spent three weeks in hospital.

Pankiewicz appeared at the Inner London Crown Court where he was jailed for 12 years for grievous bodily harm with intent.

It has been revealed that Scotland Yard did not know about Pankiewicz's criminal past until police arrested him for the attack on July 22 last year.

The sick criminal considers himself to be a celebrity villain in his native country where he boasted about his convictions, writing on a dating website that he was a "good thief" and even rapping about his crimes.
A drug addict, Pankiewicz has a string of offences dating back to when he was just 17, for rape, violent assaults, burglary, drink driving and theft.

He came to Britain in July 20 last year, just weeks after being released from prison in Poland.

He will be deported after serving his prison sentence.

Pankiewicz is by no means the only dangerous foreign criminal who has managed to slip into Britain undetected.

Our prisons are full of thousands of foreigners, hundreds of them serving life sentences.

There are currently 4,171 EU criminals among the 9,895 foreigners in jail in England and Wales.

Of these, 248 EU citizens are serving life sentences, costing the British taxpayer £36,000 a year, even though the government has the power to send them home.

Under the EU Prisoner Transfer Agreement, Britain can deport European citizens jailed by UK courts yet many are still clogging up our prison system.

The top three EU nationalities serving life sentences in British prisons are Ireland, with 77 prisoners, Poland with 70 and Lithuania with 41.






EU? EWW.
__________________
"Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but they are not entitled to their own facts". Daniel Patrick Moynihan (1927-2003)
.................................................. ..
Press The Spoiler Button to See All My Songs

kirklancaster is offline  
Register to reply Log in to reply

Bookmark/share this topic

Tags
23, discussion, eu, june, referendum, result, thread


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 07:40 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2025 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
 

About Us ThisisBigBrother.com

"Big Brother and UK Television Forum. Est. 2001"

 

© 2023
no new posts