[Alf]

“In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot.”

Mark Twain

[Kizzy]

define patriot in this instance.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

define patriot in this instance.

Me

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

define patriot in this instance.

Spoiler:

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by bobnot

Some people need to grow up.

If only - those two saddest words in the English language.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Spoiler:

Looks like a lying twonk to me......

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Looks like a lying twonk to me......

A hero that hopefully will be knighted

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Spoiler:

Truth - that Grail that fools seek who are not equipped to recognise it if they find it.

[user104658]

Farage has outed himself as a bare-faced liar, not two days ago. He had a ****ing BUS with his lies splattered on the side. Truth indeed. You have a very odd definition of it. "Lie your face off to achieve whatever your goal happens to be and then take it all back" - the mantra of most if not all politicians - and it has been irrefutably proven that Farage is no different.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Looks like a lying twonk to me......

Can there be any more compelling an endorsement then, that the man is more than worthy of a Knighthood.

(I use no question mark because the question is rhetorical.)

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by bobnot

Some people need to grow up.

Nope not possible, there are the old middle englanders and the knuckle draggers that the media have been courting over this deepening the divide until the country quite literally splits in two... To suggest it can be resolved as simply as this is impossible.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Farage has outed himself as a bare-faced liar, not two days ago. He had a ****ing BUS with his lies splattered on the side. Truth indeed. You have a very odd definition of it. "Lie your face off to achieve whatever your goal happens to be and then take it all back" - the mantra of most if not all politicians - and it has been irrefutably proven that Farage is no different.

He has single handedly brought about this ref, against the full force of the establishment

to not recognise his feat is just bitter sour grapes

It is an amazing achievement and he has written himself into the history books

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Truth - that Grail that fools seek who are not equipped to recognise it if they find it.

________________
"Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but they are not entitled to their own facts"

Unless you're nigel farage...

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Nope not possible, there are the old middle englanders and the knuckle draggers that the media have been courting over this deepening the divide until the country quite literally splits in two... To suggest it can be resolved as simply as this is impossible.

Kizzy, someone has made a square box image with text on the internet that can be easily posted on facebook, twitter and forums

we must obey it

[user104658]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

He has single handedly brought about this ref, against the full force of the establishment

to not recognise his feat is just bitter sour grapes

It is an amazing achievement and he has written himself into the history books

It is impressive that he managed to push his agenda against the stream of bigger fish who didn't want it, I'll grant you that.

Has absolutely no bearing on the fact that the campaign focus points he used to convince voters to vote alongside him, were lies. He backtracked on them IMMEDIATELY after the result, meaning that he knew they were lies before the poll. He spread them knowingly, and willingly, to manipulate and to achieve his personal wishes.

And you would Knight the man .

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

It is impressive that he managed to push his agenda against the stream of bigger fish who didn't want it, I'll grant you that.

Has absolutely no bearing on the fact that the campaign focus points he used to convince voters to vote alongside him, were lies. He backtracked on them IMMEDIATELY after the result, meaning that he knew they were lies before the poll. He spread them knowingly, and willingly, to manipulate and to achieve his personal wishes.

And you would Knight the man .

I would, a decent honest man

[user104658]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I would, a decent honest man

You're being disingenuous; you know fine well that he lied his chinless face off to get the result he wanted.

[billy123]

Just for the record i think Farage is a wanktickling bigot of the highest order and a disgrace to the leave campaign but anybody that thinks that most people that wanted to leave share his mentality is as much as a bigot as he is.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Kizzy, someone has made a square box image with text on the internet that can be easily posted on facebook, twitter and forums

we must obey it

Someone wrote random figures on a bus and people believed them...you'd be surprised how gullible some are.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

You're being disingenuous; you know fine well that he lied his chinless face off to get the result he wanted.

rubbish, but all sides did not cover themselves in glory with scare rhetoric

par for the course

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Someone wrote random figures on a bus and people believed them...you'd be surprised how gullible some are.

well look how many voted for Corbyn and look at what he turned out to be

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Jack_

These make for very interesting reading

https://www.facebook.com/tom.short.3...52?pnref=story

http://jackofkent.com/2016/06/why-th...-is-important/

I'm pretty sure article 50 will be triggered, but one thing is for sure is that 2016 is a great year for political buffs like me

The media have started picking up on this now

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...0-eu?CMP=fb_gu

[billy123]

Originally Posted by Jack_

The media have started picking up on this now

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...0-eu?CMP=fb_gu

Quoting you own posts how cool.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Jack_

The media have started picking up on this now

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...0-eu?CMP=fb_gu

yes its a "could" and "may" article

Editors love them and journalists hate them

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Farage has outed himself as a bare-faced liar, not two days ago. He had a ****ing BUS with his lies splattered on the side. Truth indeed. You have a very odd definition of it. "Lie your face off to achieve whatever your goal happens to be and then take it all back" - the mantra of most if not all politicians - and it has been irrefutably proven that Farage is no different.

You comfort yourself son in clutching your solitary straw tight, hold it aloft in triumph, but do not fool yourself that anyone can see your self-satisfaction, because they cannot; for you are buried under 10 billion tons of straw - all the lies of the 'Remain' campaigners which you absorbed, believed, and still do.

Farage is not perfect, but he is the most honest, eloquent politician in Great Britain.

That poisoned dwarf Sturgeon who shames Scotland, wishes to DESTROY her country for her own twisted prejudices, Farage wants to MEND his country for its inhabitant's cause.