[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

* Does not mention the royal family is German*

What relevance is that? We are ALL African if we trace our ancestry back.

[letmein]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

* Does not mention the royal family is German*

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

What relevance is that? We are ALL African if we trace our ancestry back.

What relevance did Empires reference have to the modern day situation in Europe?

[joeysteele]

I still think other than his last few sentences that while the tone was far better then, overall he was unnecessarily rude and insulting.

Not a good example from the UK I thought I once lived in but now apparently not so.

[Liberty4eva]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I still think other than his last few sentences that wile the tone was far better then, overall he was unnecessarily rude and insulting.

Not a good example from the UK I thought I once lived in but now apparently not so.

When you get laughed at for years and years like he was, then I think you would better understand. I thought it was very rich of that man to lecture the audience about "democracy" and how it means listening to other people. Cheeky bastard.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Liberty4eva

When you get laughed at for years and years like he was, then I think you would better understand. I thought it was very rich of that man to lecture the audience about "democracy" and how it means listening to other people. Cheeky bastard.

He is there to represent the people who elected him - not himself. He took the opportunity to gloat and to congratulate himself on an individual level, with no regard as to how that might further damage relations at a time when the country is seeking to make beneficial trade agreements.

Complete failure.

[Liberty4eva]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

He is there to represent the people who elected him - not himself. He took the opportunity to gloat and to congratulate himself on an individual level, with no regard as to how that might further damage relations at a time when the country is seeking to make beneficial trade agreements.

Complete failure.

The audience was jeering him before he even began to speak. I wonder if he was planning on making a speech with a better tone but once it was clear they were jeering him he said to hell with it and decided to rub their noses in it.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Liberty4eva

I wonder if he was planning on making a speech with a better tone but once it was clear they were jeering him he said to hell with it and decided to rub their noses in it.

It's Nigel Farage. I don't know how much you've seen of him in the past, but it seems unlikely that he was planning a better tone. If anything, this is milder than expected.

[Liberty4eva]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

It's Nigel Farage. I don't know how much you've seen of him in the past, but it seems unlikely that he was planning a better tone. If anything, this is milder than expected.

Why can't you cut him some slack? Could it have been more humble? Yes. But he just changed the course of history. You would be giddy too.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Liberty4eva

Why can't you cut him some slack? Could it have been more humble? Yes. But he just changed the course of history. You would be giddy too.

Giddy.... I say he appears more manic than giddy

[Liberty4eva]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Giddy.... I say he appears more manic than giddy

Don't know what you are talking about.

[_Tom_]

Have you ever seen such an insufferable c!nt as Juncker?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by _Tom_

Have you ever seen such an insufferable c!nt as Juncker?

Um... yep.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Liberty4eva

When you get laughed at for years and years like he was, then I think you would better understand. I thought it was very rich of that man to lecture the audience about "democracy" and how it means listening to other people. Cheeky bastard.

Well with respect, would you actually cheer and welcome someone who had got themselves into a place you belonged to, and admired, who had only one aim as to destroying it.
Someone who has been nothing else but disruptive at every opportunity they got to be over a decade and more.

Why on earth would or should they respect anyone like that.

I am sure one set of individuals the EU is really glad to see the back of are the UKIP whiners, if I was active in the EU, I certainly would be glad to get rid of them at last.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Well with respect, would you actually cheer and welcome someone who had got themselves into a place you belonged to, and admired, who had only one aim as to destroying it.
Someone who has been noting else but disruptive at every opportunity they got to be over a decade and more.

Why on earth would or should they respect anyone like that.

I am sure one set of individuals the EU is really glad to see the back of are the UKIP whiners, if I was active in the EU, I certainly would be glad to get rid of them at last.

yes and that is how nigel felt about the UK and the EU

so if you understand how the EU delegates felt than you must understand how nigel felt?

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

yes and that is how nigel felt about the UK and the EU

so if you understand how the EU delegates felt than you must understand how nigel felt?

I do but at this time it was the wrong time to speak that way,in my opinion.

I have always admired his conviction to his cause as to the UK and the EU, although I massively disagree with him on it.

He has been soundly consistent unlike most UK politicians which I have said many times both on and off here.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

"I know that none of you have ever done a proper job in your lives" Go on Nige!

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

What relevance did Empires reference have to the modern day situation in Europe?

A very relevant relevance within the context of the post - read it lovey and you will see.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Hush Niamh! Farage once downed five pints of real ale in a row without being sick whilst simultaneously eating ten cornish pasties. Has mister namby-pamby-medal-holdy-doctor ever achieved anything like that?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Hush Niamh! Farage once downed five pints of real ale in a row without being sick whilst simultaneously eating ten cornish pasties. Has mister namby-pamby-medal-holdy-doctor ever achieved anything like that?

No, you're right, my sincerest apologies

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Well with respect, would you actually cheer and welcome someone who had got themselves into a place you belonged to, and admired, who had only one aim as to destroying it.
Someone who has been noting else but disruptive at every opportunity they got to be over a decade and more.

Why on earth would or should they respect anyone like that.

I am sure one set of individuals the EU is really glad to see the back of are the UKIP whiners, if I was active in the EU, I certainly would be glad to get rid of them at last.

With respect;

1.) Farage's aim was not primarily to 'destroy' the EU, it was to extricate his beloved country - the UK - from the convoluted, failed and failing currupt mess that is the EU. If the EU implodes as a consequence (which it WILL) then that is just a HUGE bonus for all the other member 'states' whose poor citizens are members through the folly or corruption of their leaders rather than any democratic collective will.

2.)It is to Farage's credit that he has been 'disruptive' 'at every opportunity' because fighting corruption, and TRYING when OUTNUMBERED to ensure that the majority do not continually pass motions which are continually DETRIMENTAL to the cause of the UK, is a full time job - to a UK MEP who is actually CARRYING OUT the work he is being paid for - like Farage is.

3.) A 'whiner' is someone who cannot ACCEPT democracy, not someone who is trying to ENSURE that the self-serving leeches in Brussels PRACTICE DEMOCRACY when it comes to the interests of the UK.

Of course Farage is not popular in the EU - he DOES the work we pay him to do.

Any Bank who has a Security Guard who is popular among a gang of armed robbers better watch their fecking vaults carefully.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Indeed...Farage is a ****ing idiot. But we knew that already...

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

He is there to represent the people who elected him - not himself. He took the opportunity to gloat and to congratulate himself on an individual level, with no regard as to how that might further damage relations at a time when the country is seeking to make beneficial trade agreements.

Complete failure.

Well said.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Thanks Niamh

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

sounds like he was a communist