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Old 03-07-2016, 04:54 PM #1
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The cultures of reality TV in North America and elsewhere are way too solidified for any radical changes to be made at this point. You can't undo a decade and a half of history just because of what other countries are doing. Everything in the US (and Canada) is a reaction to Richard Hatch winning Survivor, and everything in the UK is a reaction to Nasty Nick getting expelled at Craig winning. If BBUK let the HMs discuss nominations and actively play the game, not only would the general public not respond well to it but the HMs really wouldn't know what to do. Just rewatch the first week of BB13 and see how that went.

And even so, if you like the BBUS format just watch BBUS and BBCan. If you like the BBUK format, just watch BBUK and CBB and BBAU I don't think one format is inherently better than the other, but I will say that I think the best seasons of BBUK are better than the best BBUS seasons.

I also think BBCan is growing a little stale and has lost the magic from the first two seasons, but that's for another discussion.
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The cultures of reality TV in North America and elsewhere are way too solidified for any radical changes to be made at this point. You can't undo a decade and a half of history just because of what other countries are doing. Everything in the US (and Canada) is a reaction to Richard Hatch winning Survivor, and everything in the UK is a reaction to Nasty Nick getting expelled at Craig winning. If BBUK let the HMs discuss nominations and actively play the game, not only would the general public not respond well to it but the HMs really wouldn't know what to do. Just rewatch the first week of BB13 and see how that went.

And even so, if you like the BBUS format just watch BBUS and BBCan. If you like the BBUK format, just watch BBUK and CBB and BBAU I don't think one format is inherently better than the other, but I will say that I think the best seasons of BBUK are better than the best BBUS seasons.

I also think BBCan is growing a little stale and has lost the magic from the first two seasons, but that's for another discussion.
If they didn't stop the nomination talk in bb13 the season would of bee awful. All the outsiders would of been culled.
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The cultures of reality TV in North America and elsewhere are way too solidified for any radical changes to be made at this point. You can't undo a decade and a half of history just because of what other countries are doing. Everything in the US (and Canada) is a reaction to Richard Hatch winning Survivor, and everything in the UK is a reaction to Nasty Nick getting expelled at Craig winning. If BBUK let the HMs discuss nominations and actively play the game, not only would the general public not respond well to it but the HMs really wouldn't know what to do. Just rewatch the first week of BB13 and see how that went.

And even so, if you like the BBUS format just watch BBUS and BBCan. If you like the BBUK format, just watch BBUK and CBB and BBAU I don't think one format is inherently better than the other, but I will say that I think the best seasons of BBUK are better than the best BBUS seasons.

I also think BBCan is growing a little stale and has lost the magic from the first two seasons, but that's for another discussion.
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Except it's Big Brother UK, not Big Brother US or Canada.

Big Brother US has had the same format for 16 years and nobody's requesting it adopt another country's format.

The format is not the problem, the production is.
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With the right cast bbuk format will always be better than can and bbus.
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I would rather get to know a person and watch messy characters argue over booze than watch people constantly plotting and talking about the game all the time. BBUS is good but the bbuk format is a lot more enjoyable to watch. And let's not act like looks, sex and laying low don't affect how far you get in the game. BBUS also lets horrid people advance further and I'm sorry this whole "but they're so entertaining" argument is bull****. Watching a bunch of dislikable jocks advance and. Make it further than all the decent people just isn't entertaining for me. The best of BBUK trumps any international seasons.
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Except it's Big Brother UK, not Big Brother US or Canada.

Big Brother US has had the same format for 16 years and nobody's requesting it adopt another country's format.

The format is not the problem, the production is.
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No, no and NO.
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If you like the BBCan format, watch BBCan instead of whining tbh
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As long as this show is on Channel 5 and produced by the people it is, it is beyond recovery.
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Would not be interested in any reality show that doesnt have a public vote. It will just be towie with nominations.
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Would not be interested in any reality show that doesnt have a public vote. It will just be towie with nominations.
Same here. I often moan about the viewers voting out entertaining housemates to soon. However a BB without public participation would be one big bore. I would not watch such a BB format.
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I like the different formats between BBUS/BBCAN and BBUK

I wouldn't change it, plus the public wouldn't respond well to a BBUS type show in the UK (see Survivor UK flopping despite it being a huge hit in America)
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Also bb can barely get 1m views as it is a us format would kill the show.
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BBUK also doesn't have the budget of BBCan and US
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But no I rather it be the same. We already have two formats of that and only one of this (we used to have BBAU). And I don't think the UK public would enjoy the HGs evicting each other and having game plays.
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Just look at the state of the reactions on here when the housemates evicted Danielle and Sam. They'd hate a BBUS format.
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I'd usually say that it wouldn't work as brits who go on BB are nowhere near competitive enough for the format to work like americans are although you could say the same about Canadians and their version is even better.

Saying that from BB17 UK I think especially Andrew as well as Hughie, Andy, Natalie and Jayne (The others basically) would actually suit great to the U.S format and remember how they wanted Alex and Jackson out because they were threats? That is a great example of game play that would work if the UK tried it.
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They could have something as an online only series or would that be too expensive??
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Nikki Grahame should have retired after the first series she was on. She was also useless on the Canadian version, having no tactics apart from her one trick of screaming.

It's obvious that things need changing, but with the cheap manipulating on CH5 it wouldn't matter which format as it still wouldn't work.
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Nikki Grahame should have retired after the first series she was on. She was also useless on the Canadian version, having no tactics apart from her one trick of screaming.
Totally agree!!!

Nikki is awful and her 'act' is extremely limited and tediously repetitive.
One series of BB with her in it was more than enough for a lifetime.

I watch BB US and BB Canada and while i enjoy them for what they are why would we want a third country using the same format, especially when, when it was done properly, ours was far better (imo).

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She means the US format right?

We've already got the Canadians scripted elements and their Showmances.
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Marco contributed nothing though?
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Marco contributed nothing though?
He contributed discussion on the Forums for his delusions, his revolting behaviour, and his obsession with BDSM.

Emma and Charlie have given me nothing to want to discuss about them other than what are they still doing there when the public could've just simply voted them off?

Don't get me wrong Marco nor Natalie should've won, but they shouldn't have been the first two that the public voted off.
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He contributed discussion on the Forums for his delusions, his revolting behaviour, and his obsession with BDSM.

Emma and Charlie have given me nothing to want to discuss about them other than what are they still doing there when the public could've just simply voted them off?
Being lightly slapped by a belt in order to try and seem even slightly mature sexually does not make him obsessed with BDSM.

I doubt he could even spell it.
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