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Originally Posted by joeysteele

Actually as to that whole post I agree with you, and on the figures,it would have bee more likely to have a Conservative/UKIP coalition, I also agree that would have been considerably better than what we have now.

I am a newer advocate of electoral reform over recent years but have come to the belief it is time, with both major parties, getting easily under 40% of the votes cast now, that it is ridiculous a party can govern unfettered with only around 37% at best of the votes cast in an election.

I think pr would make for better policies,more inclusive govt and far better representative govt too.
Labour have flirted with changing the electoral system but never actually got round to it, although had the Lib Dems tried to do a deal with Labour in 2010,maybe they could have forced their hand more as to it, at least to a referendum on it, not AV that would not alter much,a proper pr system.

However now,I cannot see the Conservative party ever being persuaded to change the voting system ever.
I think their MPs would always vote it down.

I said this earlier,that no on can deny Farage and UKIP played their role in this referendum,I never agreed with their stance but they played their part.
It is now then shocking in my view that the house of commons make up stays the same with all the work and negotiations to be done as to leaving the EU.

On all of it going on with no election held, there will certainly only be a single UKIP party MP with a vote in parliament for all of that going on,if this new PM fails to have an election.

What is now needed is a new election,and I say this again too,even if that means Labour seats do fall to UKIP,Conservative seats fall to UKIP, whether it results in a Conservative majority govt or a Labour led one,or finally a Conservative UKIP coalition govt. 'so be it'

The voters should now be given the right to decide not only who but what make up of govt is elected to see all this through now.

Labour is one of the main parties I hope will come to the idea that pr is the way forward now, all would be in their hands and all other parties hands too to ensure they had the policies that are right for the Country as a whole and also probably more consensus policies too..

The SNP, Plaid Cymru, the Greens,Lib Dems and UKIP are all parties that could support pr, also the N Irish parties too.
It cannot be permitted that parties can govern as Tony Blair did and Brown with only 35% of the votes cast from 2005 to 2010,then this govt now with 36.8% of the votes cast to govern from 2015 to 2020.

It is now going to be in 2020,19 years since any party got over 40% of the votes cast to govern in a general election, that is to me anyway, and I think should be totally unacceptable now.

A GREAT post Joey.