[joeysteele]

I do not see what sex a PM is should be relevant.

Labour has had some really strong Women as Cabinet Ministers.
People like Barbara Castle and Shirley Williams to name 2.
In fact I think had she not lost her seat in the 1979 election, had she then stood Shirley Williams would have been chosen by Labour as leader then to combat Margaret Thatcher.

I think the novelty of a female PM is now long past however and there were Women candidates in the last leadership election for leader who failed again.
They will get there one day but to me it's irrelevant, just who can do the job is what matters.

Labour has however been temporarily led by 2 Women over 3 occasions, Margaret Beckett after John Smith died until Tony Blair was elected,and Harriett Harman twice, between Gordon Brown and Ed Miliband and then between Miliband and Corbyn too.

Mind you if this is the best 2 Women for the top job this time round then the parties are in a pretty poor position.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I do not see what sex a PM is should be relevant.

Labour has had some really strong Women as Cabinet Ministers.
People like Barbara Castle and Shirley Williams to name 2.
In fact I think had she not lost her seat in the 1979 election, had she then stood Shirley Williams would have been chosen by Labour as leader then to combat Margaret Thatcher.

I think the novelty of a female PM is now long past however and there were Women candidates in the last leadership election for leader who failed again.
They will get there one day but to me it's irrelevant, just who can do the job is what matters.

Labour has however been temporarily led by 2 Women over 3 occasions, Margaret Beckett after John Smith died until Tony Blair was elected,and Harriett Harman twice, between Gordon Brown and Ed Miliband and then between Miliband and Corbyn too.

Mind you if this is the best 2 Women for the top job this time round then the parties are in a pretty poor position.

just endured another pitiful politically correct bbc news episode when they taught us almost nothing about these 2 candidates but repeeated the fact they are 2 women 9 times in the same report, absolutely mind numbingly pathetic. are we going to grill these 2 and every facet of their beings, their beliefs careers intelligence, character and potential like male candidates, i sincerely hope so. in reality most people who criticize will at some stage simply be called sexist and their flaws will be ignored

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by the truth

just endured another pitiful politically correct bbc news episode when they taught us almost nothing about these 2 candidates but repeeated the fact they are 2 women 9 times in the same report, absolutely mind numbingly pathetic. are we going to grill these 2 and every facet of their beings, their beliefs careers intelligence, character and potential like male candidates, i sincerely hope so. in reality most people who criticize will at some stage simply be called sexist and their flaws will be ignored

Exactly, I agree with you on that.
They will likely get much easier ride and likely far less intrusion as to those connected to them,unlike what a male candidate would be going through.

I agree with you it is not sexist at all to disapprove of choices just because they are female, I further agree it would be seen as that however.

I still state and believe that to me, these are 2 of the worst possible candidates there could be,not because they are women but that their uncompromising attitudes,their ideas and policies stink to high heaven.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Exactly, I agree with you on that.
They will likely get much easier ride and likely far less intrusion as to those connected to them,unlike what a male candidate would be going through.

I agree with you it is not sexist at all to disapprove of choices just because they are female, I further agree it would be seen as that however.

I still state and believe that to me, these are 2 of the worst possible candidates there could be,not because they are women but that their uncompromising attitudes,their ideas and policies stink to high heaven.

one is a hedge fund manager with a career of tax avoidance and dont even get me started on teresa may, some of her statements and decision making made donald trump look like a teddy bear. her public service slashes were utterly ruthless too

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by the truth

one is a hedge fund manager with a career of tax avoidance and dont even get me started on teresa may, some of her statements and decision making made donald trump look like a teddy bear. her public service slashes were utterly ruthless too

No disagreement from me with you there 'the truth'.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

No disagreement from me with you there 'the truth'.

Will you and The Truth get a room Joey?

(Just joking Truth.)

[the truth]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Will you and The Truth get a room Joey?

(Just joking Truth.)

lol our current bromance is purely platonic , but we're bound to find something else to disagree over soon

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Will you and The Truth get a room Joey?

(Just joking Truth.)

Whenever I agree with anyone I will say so, it is only personal insults I do not like or see the need for.

Actually for a fair while on here he and I agreed on lots of issues across the board and I am always glad when we can agree now on a range of issues.
This issue particularly.
We both will likely never support the same party,that still doesn't mean there is not more that probably unites than divides.
I always look for that, even with yourself and in truth, there are probably only about 3 on here that I would disagree with all the time now.
None of them being you or 'the truth'.