[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by jet

He was getting revved up for his big night out.

Sod off He's was arselicking ....Jason doesn't change to suit anyone,or to win votes ,he's himself and that why I like him

[camertone]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Saw some clips on BBBOTS...and I think Jackson and Andy put Jason up...which will make it a full sweep. That will be interesting...especially as it gets played into the house.

I think Jason and Laura will definitely be up..

outside info they got yesterday may affect the nominations.

[rionablue]

Originally Posted by *mazedsalv**

Going by the BOTS reasons, I feel:

Alex- Laura and Jayne
Andy- Evelyn and Jackson/Jason
Evelyn- Jackson and Jason
Hughie- Jason and Andy
Jayne- Jason and Andy
Laura- Jackson and Alex
Jason- Hughie and Jayne
Jackson- Jason and Laura
Sam- Jason and Laura

Most likely possibilty:

Jason- 5
Laura- 3
Jackson- 3
Jayne- 2
Andy- 2
Alex- 1
Hughie- 1
Evelyn- 1
Sam- 0

If it's everyone with a vote... everyone bar Sam is up.

I think Jason will go for Laura and Evelyn. I dont mind Laura but he should have no grievance with Ev. Will have to see I guess

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by tanussa

it will be no surprise that jason will be up & presumably it will be vote to save, so we must pull together & save him. wudnt be surprised either at andy or jackson nominating jason. when jason evicted lateysha, jackxon dropped jason like a hot coal, & andy has never seemed to understznd true loyalties

I don't know what you're seeing and none of us know what Andy or anyone of the housemates are seeing in these last few days, but this week has been a game changer for every single one of them.
But up to this point and the speculation now being thrown around, Andy has shown many examples that he has been loyal, so I completly disagree with what you say.
Andy showed loyalty to Jason over Charlie, loyalty to Jason over Lateysha. Loyalty to Chelsea when people slagged him off and Loyalty to Emma when the house ganged up on her.
People speculating about stuff they've not seen or stuff that's yet to happen seems a pretty futile exercise to me.
But if loyalties start to shift this week it will come as no surprise to me and they are all at it....every single one of em.

[hot2go]

If people want to get the game players out then take your pick out of any of them. It would leave the house empty. We should at this stage we throwing out the game players who are crap at it and that list def doesn't include Jason or Andy.

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by jet

It wouldn't make any sense for Andy to nom Jason as he would know:

1. Jason is going to get enough noms anyway.
2. It would kill any chance he has of winning and it would show Andy isn't the snakey gameplayer many think he is, cos that would be just stupid.
3. Jason got boos, so as far as Andy knows, he isn't a big threat.

I don't think he would anyway, but IF he has and it's a big IF, then it would be well - intentioned, maybe because he genuinely feels Jason couldn't last another week in there without doing himself harm with the public/BB by losing it completely and it would be in his best interests. Jason wanted to go, and he could then go with his 20k intact whereas he might have lost it.

But I very much doubt he's nominated him.

Jason sailing very close to the edge with last nights comments.....they were more real and more intimidating than the ones made by Chelsea and that was why Chelsea got a telling off from BB and why he was nominated by so many people the week he was evicted.
Jason was very much a man on the edge last night and it wasn't good.

[tanussa]

didnt like how andy distanced himself when jason was at his lowest, you could see look on andys face prior to that as if he'd done listening to jason & fair enough you dont want to be dragged down but he could have let others know how depressed jason was & asked could they make bit more of an effort with him as opposed to making him an outcast

[hot2go]

There are people who've loved Andy from the start who now hate him. The reason is because of what they perceive as disloyalty. What a contradiction that is and how very ironic.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by tanussa

didnt like how andy distanced himself when jason was at his lowest, you could see look on andys face prior to that as if he'd done listening to jason & fair enough you dont want to be dragged down but he could have let others know how depressed jason was & asked could they make bit more of an effort with him as opposed to making him an outcast

This!

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by hot2go

There are people who've loved Andy from the start who now hate him. The reason is because of what they perceive as disloyalty. What a contradiction that is and how very ironic.

I dont hate him ,I hate disloyalty ,and IMO he's treat Jason awfully this week

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by tanussa

didnt like how andy distanced himself when jason was at his lowest, you could see look on andys face prior to that as if he'd done listening to jason & fair enough you dont want to be dragged down but he could have let others know how depressed jason was & asked could they make bit more of an effort with him as opposed to making him an outcast

I can see how it can look, and it may be the case. But I would tend to focus on the ones who didn't try and lift Jasons mood rather than Andy who clearly tried. We also don't know how long Andy spent trying and listening. He spends most of his time with Jason usually so I would imagine he listened to Jason most of that day. When he let his hair down at the party along with all the others who deserved to after the week they had just had, Andy was doing nothing wrong.

[hot2go]

What's happened to peoples loyalty to Andy ?

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

If he has than he's a complete fraud. A real friend would not have done it.

Sometimes they do though, James wasn't it that put Austin his closest friend in the house up, yet they remain to this day great and close friends.

[mysargasso]

Andy has always been very fair with his nominations this series, giving very valid reasons for them. Him allegedly nominating Jason is understandable to me. Jason has been a disappointment over his handling of the drama he caused during annihilation week. Andy has tried to be supportive, but there's only so much one person can do until they have to throw in the towel and just leave the other person to their own devices.

To me, a real friend makes a friend accountable for their actions when they need to be. They call them out on their bull**** and don't just give them a free pass because they're mates. And if Andy did vote for Jason this round, I see that more of him showing some tough love to Jason over anything else.

It's honestly no different from Jayne voting to evict Ryan. Those two were very close, but in the end Jayne made Ryan accountable for something he did that week that she felt could not be justified in her eyes.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Sometimes they do though, James wasn't it that put Austin his closest friend in the house up, yet they remain to this day great and close friends.

But James did not bitch and mock Austin. He nominated him, because his behaviour was very distructive. Jason was just having a bad day and Was not hurting anyone. If Andy nominated Jason then he's a snake in the grass for me. Jason may forgive him, but I won't.

[jet]

Originally Posted by hot2go

What's happened to peoples loyalty to Andy ?

I don't think there was any there to start with tbh. He was only liked because he was there for their favourite. It's obvious from the way he was blasted and dropped and hated as soon as they perceived he had done something wrong against Jason, which he most certainly hadn't. I've never seen such hyperbole.
It's also coming close to the end, and Andy is a threat to their man. So he must be lambasted and made to look as bad as possible. I can see no other reasons why Andy enjoying a fun night was blown out of all proportion.
He didn't sit with Jason the whole time and be miserable with him! That will do, we'll run with that haha we've GOT SOMETHING ON HIM!

[Vanessa]

My problem is only if Andy nominated Jason. If he hasn't then he still has my support.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

But James did not bitch and mock Austin. He nominated him, because his behaviour was very distructive. Jason was just having a bad day and Was not hurting anyone. If Andy nominated Jason then he's a snake in the grass for me. Jason may forgive him, but I won't.

James nominated Austin despite his behaviour being the same as it always had been near all through.
I saw no reason for James to nominate Austin at all, he should have talked to him, not risk him losing his place in the house.
However it does happen and anyone who thinks they are not close and good friends are badly mistaken.

We don't even know yet however if Andy has even done so, so why hammer him before we even know.
I personally see no reason for Andy to nominate Jason but if he does, then it won't alter my view on either.
Also Andy will be well aware, being close to Jason that he expressed a strong request to leave the house,as shown in the highlights last night.

I like both and sometimes these things happen with noms for many reasons and not necessarily for bad reasons or any dislike of the other.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

My problem is only if Andy nominated Jason. If he hasn't then he still has my support.

You weren't saying that yesterday before we even heard snippets of the nominations. You were blasting him. But I'm glad you like him again.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by jet

You weren't saying that yesterday before we even heard snippets of the nominations. You were blasting him. But I'm glad you like him again.

I think he has behaved appallingly with Jason since he heard the boos for him. So still not happy about that, I'm afraid.

[dyfed]

Surely Andy wouldn't nominate Jason ,

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by dyfed

Surely Andy wouldn't nominate Jason ,

I think he has and didn't know it would be shown to the housemates. Funny thing is Jason would have been up anyway. This only makes him look two faced. What a stupid move if it's true

[jet]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I think he has behaved appallingly with Jason since he heard the boos for him. So still not happy about that, I'm afraid.

If someone says something often enough, they really start to believe it despite any evidence.
If you think that why would you still support him if he hasn't nommd Jason?

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by jet

If someone says something often enough, they really start to believe it despite any evidence.

Andy was all over Jason when he was getting cheers. But the minute he got boos he distanced himself and started to slap him off. Coincidence? I think not.

[dyfed]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I think he has and didn't know it would be shown to the housemates. Funny thing is Jason would have been up anyway. This only makes him look two faced. What a stupid move if it's true

If this is true....It would be the worst move Andy could have made ..