[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by hot2go

Winding people up seems to be the theme this time

Heavy D started it, Bear joined in later ..,James took it a step too far but it was acceptable

Saira started it...Marnie took it a step too far but it was NOT ACCEPTABLE

The big diff is Heavy D was not setting out to be unkind like Marnie or to patronise and analyse like Saira....it was just lads banter and James gave as good as he got...it all went a bit far but it was James who cranked it up a gear and good for him....now the lads know who they're dealing with.

Marnie was a whole diff situation and actually made me angry as I watched....and I don't even particularly like Saira but I found the whole thing highly offensive.

Double standards isn't it ?

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Double standards isn't it ?

Yes it is....the lads were only messing about with James...,they're trying to get a reaction and to get his attention ...James isn't integrating with the young ones and they're trying to accept him by joking around with him ....I actually think they want him to join in more and are trying to invite him into the group....I don't think it was meant in a maliscaous way

Saira situation is very different, she is integrating with the young ones but she's doing it by analysing them and patronising them...she has rubbed them up the wrong way and the three lads weren't picking on her in the kitchen, they were telling her how they feel about it....something she does all the time with everyone else...she just doesn't like it done to her

Marnie is a whole different thing and her situation with Saira was disrespectful, distasteful and offensive. And people who defend her while at the same time attack the boys are hypocrites. Marnie was humiliating Saira on purpose...the boys were just reacting to Saira by engaging in a conversation.

[RhysJones]

James can't expect to do that and then not get anything back in return, I bet he uses this as some sort of sympathy vote cos he's going to be up, and with luck he'll be going, especially since it's VTS and when he's up against someone like Bear

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by hot2go

Yes it is....the lads were only messing about with James...,they're trying to get a reaction and to get his attention ...James isn't integrating with the young ones and they're trying to accept him by joking around with him ....I actually think they want him to join in more and are trying to invite him into the group....I don't think it was meant in a maliscaous way

Saira situation is very different, she is integrating with the young ones but she's doing it by analysing them and patronising them...she has rubbed them up the wrong way and the three lads weren't picking on her in the kitchen, they were telling her how they feel about it....something she does all the time with everyone else...she just doesn't like it done to her

Marnie is a whole different thing and her situation with Saira was disrespectful, distasteful and offensive. And people who defend her while at the same time attack the boys are hypocrites. Marnie was humiliating Saira on purpose...the boys were just reacting to Saira by engaging in a conversation.

Agree with all you say

[starry]

I don't accept that someone can lay their hands like that on someone, it was clearly designed to try and undermine. Both Heavy D and Bear are like a couple of stupid school playground idiots who think they can intimidate someone. I think most will be cheering when James pours that powder over Bear.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by jaxie

If you mean the food fight clip James invited that behaviour by starting it, unfortunately it backfired on him and he got it back in triplicate.

He did indeed, he emptied 'all' the coffee over Stephen first, you cannot do that and not expect some retaliation afterwards.

As has been the case in many series of food fights,they do escalate too anyway.
James has no sympathy from me on this one.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

He did indeed, he emptied 'all' the coffee over Stephen first, you cannot do that and not expect some retaliation afterwards.

As has been the case in many series of food fights,they do escalate too anyway.
James has no sympathy from me on this one.

Heavy D rubbed his head and he asked him to stop then HD and Bear continued to jeer and taunt him, he was cooking food so wasn't really in a position to walk away, good on him for dumping coffee over Stephen, he was being very childish along either his mate

[-Sue-]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

He did indeed, he emptied 'all' the coffee over Stephen first, you cannot do that and not expect some retaliation afterwards.

As has been the case in many series of food fights,they do escalate too anyway.
James has no sympathy from me on this one.

They went too far teasing James to be fair...

Originally Posted by Cherie

Heavy D rubbed his head and he asked him to stop then HD and Bear continued to jeer and taunt him, he was cooking food so wasn't really in a position to walk away, good on him for dumping coffee over Stephen, he was being very childish along either his mate

I agree with this went right off Heavy D after this and Bear is such a petulant child really can't stand him at all..poor James

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by -Sue-

They went too far teasing James to be fair...



I agree with this went right off Heavy D after this and Bear is such a petulant child really can't stand him at all..poor James

HD looked like an overgrown play ground bully