[Drew.]

Either Biggins can say goodbye to his career or someone has one very ****ed up and creative mind to make all of that up

[jet]

Originally Posted by erinp5

read this on DS no clue if it's true or a wind up

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2171093

A wind up, surely?

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Drew.

Either Biggins can say goodbye to his career or someone has one very ****ed up and creative mind to make all of that up

He only does panto now doesn't he?

[Drew.]

Originally Posted by LukeB

He only does panto now doesn't he?

I don't actually have a clue what he does lol, RIP his panto career then

[ThriceShy]

It's funny because I predicted Biggins' downfall before the series began. I said to the other half that BB is not like the jungle and he is likely to expose himself as a nasty piece of work.

I expected a Natalie Cassidy type downfall but this is just beyond spectacular.

If that transcript is accurate then he will never appear on TV again.

[bots]

Originally Posted by jet

A wind up, surely?

if its a wind up, its a very elaborate one.

[ThriceShy]

I am pretty certain the transcript is real.

The poster on DS who posted it is well known as an insider and has posted truthful insider info before over a period of 7 years.

[Jack_]

I'd heard rumours of anti-Semitic jokes (I've been following the Olympics not BB) and was preparing to defend him on the basis that comedy should have no bounds but ****ing hell, if that transcript is real there's no justification whatsoever I mean where would you begin?

[ThriceShy]

I wonder if he was trying to be ironic.

Surely a man that intelligent wouldn't sit in front of 27 television cameras and say that stuff.

[jet]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

if its a wind up, its a very elaborate one.

He is well known around BB circles, BOTS etc, so if he talks like this then they surely must have known about it. He's hardly likely to keep those sort of views under wraps all these years until he enters the house and then unleash them in public. Very odd.
Has he taken leave of his senses or what? I doubt it's true.

[bots]

Originally Posted by Jack_

I'd heard rumours of anti-Semitic jokes (I've been following the Olympics not BB) and was preparing to defend him on the basis that comedy should have no bounds but ****ing hell, if that transcript is real there's no justification whatsoever I mean where would you begin?

One would like to think its a fake transcript and I hope it is, but its very elaborate if its a fake.

[jet]

Bear certainly got a good part, enjoying and encouraging Biggins in all he said.

[bots]

Originally Posted by jet

Bear certainly got a good part, enjoying and encouraging Biggins in all he said.

with every word uttered, Bear could see his chances of winning increasing ....

Its going to make it an interesting run up to the h/l show ... is it real or is it fake

[erinp5]

confirmed here
https://twitter.com/ALLTHINGSMEDIA_/...17764553895938

[Gusto Brunt]

Biggins said he was there for the money and that was it.

He knew he'd be breaking the rules with controversial comments, so he made controversial comments. He wanted an early exit. It was deliberate.

It's not rocket science.

[jennyjuniper]

Originally Posted by Shaun

"The worst ones, I'm afraid, are the bisexuals... you just have to pick a side" isn't remotely harmless, it's villainising us as being some indecisive little stain on the Gays when in fact we're more persecuted by them than by anyone else And I'm sorry you're fine with his stupid outdated comments but for someone on BOTS so regularly and desperately as Biggins was you would think he'd have cottoned onto the idea that, perhaps, you just don't go on about a sexuality in a negative light.

That's the trouble with Britain today. People creep about being apologetic for every opinion they might have. If you are determined to believe you are being 'persecuted' for being bi-sexual, then that's your affair.
The real victims of this kind of political correctness gone mad are the children who are raped and abused by Asian gangs in places like Rotherham, who were allowed to continue because people were afraid to be labelled racist.
Biggins and Renees remarks may have been ill informed or not, but the right to have such opinions IS their right.

[jennyjuniper]

Originally Posted by Who Is She?

You're not entitled to have any opinion on things like sexuality IMO. There shouldn't need to be an opinion there. It is what it is. It shouldn't have to be debated. Bisexuals are just biseuxals. We don't need people sticking their two cents in on that.

Oh dear, this is sounding more and more like the Big Brother of George Orwell's 1984. Not entitled to have an opinion on sexuality? Everyone everywhere is entitled to have an opinion on anything.

[jennyjuniper]

Originally Posted by Who Is She?

Because it's not something you need an opinion on. It is what it is. It's not something that needs debating.

That's just YOUR opinion.

[jennyjuniper]

Originally Posted by bananarama

In a genuine free speech and free expression country you should be free to express a personal opinion regardless of if it is private or in public and regardless to any offence it may cause to others.

You can not go through life censoring oneself on the off chance that someone somewhere might take offence.

We have lost a valuable right in this country because we pander to babies who do not have the personalities to be adult and take words on the chin in a grown up way.

Just remember censorship is far more sinister than percieved offensive comments.

This

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by bananarama

In a genuine free speech and free expression country you should be free to express a personal opinion regardless of if it is private or in public and regardless to any offence it may cause to others.

You can not go through life censoring oneself on the off chance that someone somewhere might take offence.

We have lost a valuable right in this country because we pander to babies who do not have the personalities to be adult and take words on the chin in a grown up way.

Just remember censorship is far more sinister than percieved offensive comments.

..he wasn't censored though..(if the transcripts are truth and will be shown..)..he was allowed his free speech and he exercised his free speech and he takes responsibility for his free speech as we all do for all of our freedoms to act or to speak etc..but that's as far as his control and his freedoms go though because now others will equally take their freedoms and make decisions about his career, about thoughts toward him and etc etc...

[jennyjuniper]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

with every word uttered, Bear could see his chances of winning increasing ....

Its going to make it an interesting run up to the h/l show ... is it real or is it fake

I don't think Bear is intelligent enough to connect the dots. He was just hyped and encouraging Biggins because he could see a row brewing.

[wendywillow]

the transcript seems over the top, especially with all bears "bruvs!" but they need to show it though whatever happened

[Cherie]

The transcript

If true Biggins will be the back end of the panto horse going forward

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..he wasn't censored though..(if the transcripts are truth and will be shown..)..he was allowed his free speech and he exercised his free speech and he takes responsibility for his free speech as we all do for all of our freedoms to act or to speak etc..but that's as far as his control and his freedoms go though because now others will equally take their freedoms and make decisions about his career, about thoughts toward him and etc etc...

He was in a sense. The production team can do what they want, of course (it's their show), but the message is clear... If you say anything that offends the sensibilities of the liberal progressive multiculturalists your career is over. If you say things that offend conservative minded Christians who think Britain has transformed into something they never fought for (and many such people did fight for it) then you are fully embraced, celebrated and promoted.

It's the not the state that goes after people who say the "wrong" thing (though they increasingly will in some instances). It's the pressure the surrounding culture puts on others to refuse employment to people or to just engage in media witch hunts.

Look at what happened to James D. Watson. A Nobel Prize winner. These are some of things he said...

Watson did not say in his memoir that race was a factor in his hypothesis of divergence of intellect between geographically isolated populations. The following is a transcript of that part of the interview: 'He says that he is “inherently gloomy about the prospect of Africa” because “all our social policies are based on the fact that their intelligence is the same as ours – whereas all the testing says not really”, and I know that this “hot potato” is going to be difficult to address. His hope is that everyone is equal, but he counters that “people who have to deal with black employees find this not true”. He says that you should not discriminate on the basis of colour, because “there are many people of colour who are very talented, but don’t promote them when they haven’t succeeded at the lower level”. He writes that “there is no firm reason to anticipate that the intellectual capacities of peoples geographically separated in their evolution should prove to have evolved identically. Our wanting to reserve equal powers of reason as some universal heritage of humanity will not be enough to make it so”'.[95]

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

He was in a sense. The production team can do what they want, of course (it's their show), but the message is clear... If you say anything that offends the sensibilities of the liberal progressive multiculturalists your career is over. If you say things that offend conservative minded Christians who think Britain has transformed into something they never fought for (and many such people did fight for it) then you are fully embraced, celebrated and promoted.

It's the not the state that goes after people who say the "wrong" thing (though they increasingly will in some instances). It's the pressure the surrounding culture puts on others to refuse employment to people or to just engage in media witch hunts.

Look at what happened to James D. Watson. A Nobel Prize winner. These are some of things he said...

..it's not really about media witch hunts, any decisions that are made in terms of his employment etc are made with the biggest consideration of money/income and whether employing him would be a bad move because of reduced income and viewers 'switching off or switching over' for the very reasons that freedom is there to do that as well...