[Withano]

Stating an opinion is fine. It has happened hundreds of times throughout this series already

What Biggins said about bisexuality can not be described as an opinion because he is simply incorrect. Some things do not require an opinion, some things require an education.

If you have an opinion that a fact is untrue, then you're an idiot, if your stupidness has potential to insult a community, you should get a warning. If you continue to insult a community, any community, you get ejected. Seems like fair rules to me.

[camertone]

Originally Posted by Withano

Stating an opinion is fine. It has happened hundreds of times throughout this series already

What Biggins said about bisexuality can not be described as an opinion because he is simply incorrect. Some things do not require an opinion, some things require an education.

If you have an opinion that a fact is untrue, then you're an idiot, if your stupidness has potential to insult a community, you should get a warning. If you continue to insult a community, any community, you get ejected. Seems like fair rules to me.

well said..

[billy123]

Originally Posted by Withano

Stating an opinion is fine. It has happened hundreds of times throughout this series already

What Biggins said about bisexuality can not be described as an opinion because he is simply incorrect. Some things do not require an opinion, some things require an education.

If you have an opinion that a fact is untrue, then you're an idiot, if your stupidness has potential to insult a community, you should get a warning. If you continue to insult a community, any community, you get ejected. Seems like fair rules to me.

You forgot to add that is just your opinion.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Withano

Stating an opinion is fine. It has happened hundreds of times throughout this series already

What Biggins said about bisexuality can not be described as an opinion because he is simply incorrect. Some things do not require an opinion, some things require an education.

If you have an opinion that a fact is untrue, then you're an idiot, if your stupidness has potential to insult a community, you should get a warning. If you continue to insult a community, any community, you get ejected. Seems like fair rules to me.

By the same token this is incorrect.

If someone has an opinion that is factually incorrect they are ignorant to those facts, as in they are not aware of them.

Opinions however are subjective and do not have to be based on facts.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

By the same token this is incorrect.

If someone has an opinion that is factually incorrect they are ignorant to those facts, as in they are not aware of them.

Opinions however are subjective and do not have to be based on facts.

Making an opinion not based on facts makes you as stupid as anybody who learns and disregards them.
Either way his "opinions" were simply ill-informed and could cause offence to a community just because of his ignorance. Warning warranted.
If we're led to believe he could have caused offence three or more times, ejection warranted.

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by Withano

Making an opinion not based on facts makes you as stupid as anybody who learns and disregards them.
Either way his "opinions" were simply ill-informed and could cause offence to a community just because of his ignorance. Warning warranted.
If we're led to believe he could have caused offence three or more times, ejection warranted.

Do you not think spitting in someone's food could cause gross offence?

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

Do you not think spitting in someone's food could cause gross offence?

The worst thing this series but she's still in there

[Withano]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

Do you not think spitting in someone's food could cause gross offence?

A bit irrelevant considering the topic.. did you read the OP? But yes, I can see how that could cause offence to other people and evidently so did the production team as they put her on a final warning, which is presumably different to just giving her a warning.

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by Withano

A bit irrelevant considering the topic.. did you read the OP? But yes, I can see how that could cause offence to other people and evidently so did the production team as they put her on a final warning, which is presumably different to just giving her a warning.

You don't agree she should be out then? And you still don't agree that spitting in food is worse than slagging bisexuals off?

Just checkin'.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

You don't agree she should be out then? And you still don't agree that spitting in food is worse than slagging bisexuals off?

Just checkin'.

I think repeatedly causing offence to at least 2 different communities in the space of a week is worse than spitting in someones food and evidently so does the production team. If Bear was to act differently, then it would be a different story, but Bear did not care, whereas many victims of Biggins "opinions" did care. Perhaps thats why Marnie wasn't punished (at least onscreen), her victim didn't care much either.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Withano

Making an opinion not based on facts makes you as stupid as anybody who learns and disregards them.
Either way his "opinions" were simply ill-informed and could cause offence to a community just because of his ignorance. Warning warranted.
If we're led to believe he could have caused offence three or more times, ejection warranted.

Opinions don't just have to be based on acts though do they, they are a product of culture, socialisation, media influence... You can't say people are stupid for being ignorant to the 'facts'.

It's sad we were not given the full facts with which to base our opinions on, I hate feeling like I'm being spoonfed information that is contrary to the 'facts' whether what he said was ignorant or not I would like to make my own mind up how I feel about it.

'If we're led'..... My advice? Don't be led, anywhere.