[joeysteele]

Lewis and Marnie were wrong to hide any alcohol.
I am actually surprised BB allowed them to.

So for that I realise heavy D suspected there should be more and kept a watch as to how things went.

However, Heavy D to me could be the most aggressive in there now, he does fume, he has anger and frustration smouldering inside and then lets fly.
He goads others into challenging him ad then in the diary room says meekly, he is sorry and calms right down, so nothing is done.

He was part of the winding up of James before the food fight incident too, so he is too a very capable wind up merchant.

I would not trust Heavy D myself,the smile hides a lot more of his bad side than we actually see and he got what he wanted last night, a way to get at Lewis, mainly for being bears associate,using the alcohol as an excuse and using Marnie too to try to enrage Lewis.

Lewis however came across as looking rather daft in his challenging of Heavy D,something heavy D was again able to use, to make himself look the better man despite again being the initial 'starter' of the incident and getting away with a little cosy chat for doing so.

They should all do their best to avoid heavy D and let him get so mad they do, that he really blows his top and we get to see how awful he really is likely.
If I was in, when he has that daft smile on his face,hiding his real intentions,I would just keep smiling back at him, refusing to engage on anything with him really,that would wind him up far more than falling into the trap of 'comical' challenges, as Lewis fell for last night.

Although as I said earlier, Lewis and Marnie were wrong to hide alcohol,on the other side however no one else even noticed that or were bothered, only heavy D, who also is very adept at making sure he gets airtime.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by jet

Really? Yet Heavy D is the only one who has managed to rile up the riler - uppers and get them all hot and bothered. He single - handedly exposed Lewis's weakness's, took the spotlight off a very silent and subdued Bear and didn't succumb to outright anger when Lewis insisted he say 'please' and 'thank you' for letting him have a little wine after he and Marnie pilfered most of it for themselves. He doesn't need any community care thank you very much, he took on the bullies tonight and made them look like the pillocks.
He was winding up with a surprising dollop of humour considering how he was treated and I thought wind up merchants were revered this series?
But of course he's at risk on the next eviction because he has a big wobbly belly and isn't good looking...I get it now....

Originally Posted by jet

I didn't like him much (he can be pretty annoying) or rate him until tonight. I thought you would too going by what you always said you admired in a HM. You say 'he's too old to pull it off' - I didn't realise you had an age limit as to who could be eligible for being a winder - upper.
Maybe you just don't like that he came out better and smarter tonight than the 'squad'. That he didn't let Lewis make him lose it over the alcohol and instead turned it around and made Lewis lose it (and Marnie too). And Bear became small and insignificant like he did when faced with the big security guard and said little. If you were being true to your previous statements of what you like in HM's, then you would admire Heavy for his show tonight, whether you actually like him or not shouldn't come into it.

..I can't say that I like Heavy D as such, Jet because he is annoying/childish and can behave quite badly and I'm not excusing any of that but at least with Heavy, there is some level of understanding for me...they're not really I don't think 'winding him up' as such but more trying to 'put him in his place' and for him to know his place little girl or whatever it was that Aislene said to Nikki and he's definitely not knowing his place atm......because they're not able to control him or have the influence over him I should say, as they did at the beginning when he was also a part of their 'squad'...(and I have to say that, that didn't show him in a great light either to be part of it..)...anyways, yes he has a big wobbly belly, while Lewis is a beautiful people....and is only Storage Wars..(which he needs to go back to and be a flop in according to Lewis..)..whereas Lewis is Towie and Bear is Ex on the Beach and Marnie is Geordie Shore so he really is stepping above his station here....he needs to say these pleases and these thank yous and worship the very ground for every morsel they allow him and be good and grateful for because they allowed him into their squad...but then the problem was, he went and thought he was equal in being in that squad and what the heck with that..?...I mean really..?...they can have the food and the drink and whatever because they get to decide who gets the food and the drink and whatever they feel their self-entitlements to and they'll decide what others can have as well... (it's annoying when people don't comply with that, is it not..?..)...and more annoying still when those others aren't even as beautiful and cheeky chappy and adorably and entertaing-ly as wind-up as us....sadly though, I think that they may be right in that I fear that the popularity of their reality shows may win in the voting and also that his annoying personality will very much go against him as well because he hasn't endeared really ..and then always the factor as well that some voting may be 'they're hot and he's not' motivated....

[jet]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..I can't say that I like Heavy D as such, Jet because he is annoying/childish and can behave quite badly and I'm not excusing any of that but at least with Heavy, there is some level of understanding for me...they're not really I don't think 'winding him up' as such but more trying to 'put him in his place' and for him to know his place little girl or whatever it was that Aislene said to Nikki and he's definitely not knowing his place atm......because they're not able to control him or have the influence over him I should say, as they did at the beginning when he was also a part of their 'squad'...(and I have to say that, that didn't show him in a great light either to be part of it..)...anyways, yes he has a big wobbly belly, while Lewis is a beautiful people....and is only Storage Wars..(which he needs to go back to and be a flop in according to Lewis..)..whereas Lewis is Towie and Bear is Ex on the Beach and Marnie is Geordie Shore so he really is stepping above his station here....he needs to say these pleases and these thank yous and worship the very ground for every morsel they allow him and be good and grateful for because they allowed him into their squad...but then the problem was, he went and thought he was equal in being in that squad and what the heck with that..?...I mean really..?...they can have the food and the drink and whatever because they get to decide who gets the food and the drink and whatever they feel their self-entitlements to and they'll decide what others can have as well... (it's annoying when people don't comply with that, is it not..?..)...and more annoying still when those others aren't even as beautiful and cheeky chappy and adorably and entertaing-ly as wind-up as us....sadly though, I think that they may be right in that I fear that the popularity of their reality shows may win in the voting and also that his annoying personality will very much go against him as well because he hasn't endeared really ..and then always the factor as well that some voting may be 'they're hot and he's not' motivated....

You have it to a T Ammi.
I can't say he's a favourite of mine (I don't have one this series, Frankie is closest and I like Ricky and Sam) - yes, he can be very annoying but anyone who manages to give the awful trio a taste of their own medicine has a vote to save from me. I was about to give up on the series but I'll stick around a few more days to see how the eviction pans out. I think either Lewis or Bear going would change the dynamics in the house and break up the awful pattern the series is stuck in at present.