[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by Withano

Thanks for confirming that Bear has bullied every single person and not just Heavy

So in other words he hasn't singled anyone out and is more of a wind up merchant than a bully. Good for you for admitting this reality.

As for your other points, Bears behaviour isn't okay just because Aubrey did something arguably worse one time. Thats a tired and weird argument.

Bears behaviour has to put into context. The other housemates haven't treated him well. Some of them are have been despicable. But he has not "bullied" anyone and it's a hysterical overreaction to think he has.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

So in other words he hasn't singled anyone out and is more of a wind up merchant than a bully. Good for you for admitting this reality.



Bears behaviour has to put into context. The other housemates haven't treated him well. Some of them are have been despicable. But he has not "bullied" anyone and it's a hysterical overreaction to think he has.

Of course hes bullied people. Regularly.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Robodog

The only times i have felt uncomfortable watching CBB is

a) when Lewis made Heavy D 'beg' for that half drunk glass of stolen wine and

b) when Saira stood over Heavy D, with her foot on his bed, ignoring him when he asked her to leave him alone and threatening him into saying what she wanted to hear 'say my name SAY MY NAME' etc

I think Heavy D is annoying but these two events were deliberate intimidation and belittling, using threat to control someone's behaviour. I'd call that a form of bullying.

I think Heavy D is deep down quite vulnerable and i also think Lewis and Saira are both clever but spiteful individuals who have exploited Heavy D's vulnerability for their own power trip.

Excellent post.
I'm glad the majority on here, including yourself, have read the situation correctly. A small minority really aren't very perceptive at all...if most people think a certain way, they are very likely to be correct...

[waterhog]

Originally Posted by Xanzia

Colin is getting bullied mostly verbally, and spatially (although Bear was slapped down for crowding him). He's actually most like a girl among the boys. But now, it is also physically (by girls)! Those pies slammed into his face with great force. Is anybody concerned that there could be long lasting psychological effects for the Boominator?

I totally disagree - big man and he can handle it.

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by jet

Excellent post.
I'm glad the majority on here, including yourself, have read the situation correctly. A small minority really aren't very perceptive at all...if most people think a certain way, they are very likely to be correct...

You've read it completely wrong. How was Saira (who I didn't like btw) wrong for being fed up with Heavy getting her name wrong for 12 days? Saira also had her looks insulted by Heavy. Followed by false laugh to make it seem less harsh.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

You've read it completely wrong. How was Saira (who I didn't like btw) wrong for being fed up with Heavy getting her name wrong for 12 days? Saira also had her looks insulted by Heavy. Followed by false laugh to make it seem less harsh.

If you don't think she was very wrong in how she handled the situation, there is nothing I can do for you. Perception and compassion can't just be handed out like sweeties.

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

A group of 4 haven't bullied him though. Invariably any confrontation has been one on one and Heavy D has himself provoked it as much as they have. And frankly Chloe is within her rights to think he's a prick after calling her "It!".




He's done that with every single person in the house. Bullying tends to be when one person is singled out and it is relentless. Nothing of the sort has gone on here.



Bear's just a wind up merchant. Given that the others have strength in number and have said plenty of things themselves, you could (though I wouldn't) say he's been bullied. Renee never shuts up about him. Aubrey gobbed in his food and drink. The way I see it, Bear is giving as good back.

This is how i see it too...there is always conflict in the BB house and this year is no exception....if a person has an issue with another person other than on one occasion it's called bullying and I don't think this is correct. Lewis and Marnie showed ugly behaviour to Heavy but it was one time only and Heavy gave as good as he got. Had they had continued to repeat that behaviour then there would be a problem but one isolated incident does not make it bullying esp as Heavy had just previously behaved no better himself ....not liking someone does not make you a bully...Bear isn't even in the equation cause he stands to to toe with people not clustered in a group whispering about them....I think the girls talking about Chloe while she lay in bed was closer to bullying. And if what Bear is doing is bullying Heavy, which I don't believe, why the hell are the others standing there and allowing it to happen....just how great are they ?
Frenchie poured food all over the floor, danced and screamed in the bedroom at night and took a pair of scissors to someone's clothes yet she was called a Queen not a bully.

[sampvt]

I am a big heavy fan just because he has the measure of the whole house. He suffers no fools and he can be quite funny. Ok he is a complete dick but unlike bear he is watchable

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by Yaki da

You've read it completely wrong. How was Saira (who I didn't like btw) wrong for being fed up with Heavy getting her name wrong for 12 days? Saira also had her looks insulted by Heavy. Followed by false laugh to make it seem less harsh.

This was very relevant because when Heavy insulted Saira it really pissed Lewis off who defended her and told Heavy that he thought he was a really nasty man...that was where it began that night, not with the drinks but in the garden with Saira...Heavy laughed in her face and made himself the target he later became. Lewis was wrong but it wasn't random, there was resentment already there and that resentment had been created by Heavy himself.
I think it's a complete misconception that Heavy is a victim. To me him and Bear are the same but Bear is just better at it....and neither of them are like Lewis.

[Yaki da]

Originally Posted by jet

If you don't think she was very wrong in how she handled the situation, there is nothing I can do for you. Perception and compassion can't just be handed out like sweeties.

What she was, was fed up with him after 12 days of living with her still mispronouncing her name. Why are you not critical of him for this? Why should a person have to put up with it? There's no way he wasn't doing that on purpose.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Not concerned in the slightest,he gives more out than he gets back

was going to type similar to this, so I looked to see if you had posted and you had, knowing you would have said what I would say anyway.

He is not being bullied in any shape or form whatsoever.

[Lstan]

Originally Posted by Xanzia

Colin is getting bullied mostly verbally, and spatially (although Bear was slapped down for crowding him). He's actually most like a girl among the boys. But now, it is also physically (by girls)! Those pies slammed into his face with great force. Is anybody concerned that there could be long lasting psychological effects for the Boominator?

[Yaki da]

Lewis has been so nasty towards Heavy tonight. Telling him to just eat some food as he deserves it.