[Black Dagger]

I know people in the jury probably think I don't warrant a victory because I spent about 4 eliminations of those heading to jury with a pass in my pocket so I didn't have to play the game as hard as some people, but I've done everything in my power after that and even before then to stay in the game, I caught a sniff of a chance of me being wiped out way before jury and found myself an idol to cause a blindside and unfortunately Daniel was that victim, but I never saw this as a 'get the weaves out' alliance I had with Hayden, I did what I could to make the game interesting, especially when I got the chance to give Samm a vote in an elimination to prove that you did have your worth in the game and hopefully I secured a jury vote in doing so, but if you feel that Hayden is more worthy then that is fine as well. Hayden may have made more power moves than me, but I was able to sit back and not have people somehow see me as a threat, despite knowing I had huge chances to win immunity at times because I have been a strong player in previous games when it came down to challenges. I just hope that the whole pass thing and maybe being seen as invisible doesn't cost me jury votes because I'd love to win this game I've never won one before and I've been here for over 5 years, I will guilt trip you. Thank you for the opportunity to play this game, Reece and Jon. It's been a pleasure, you've worked so hard and to be able to say I've come top 2 in this game is just fabulous, considering I was robbed last Survivor, take that into consideration as well guys. Thank you x

[Headie]

Hopefully if I'm able to I can do a little speech/answer questions tomorrow but I'm not sure if I'll have time due to me getting ready for V Fest, I'll have to see!

But if I don't then I will be so pleased for Lucas, I couldn't think of a better player to lose to tbh

I do feel that I have given this game my all though, it has probably been the most fun game I've ever played since joining the forum and I'd be so proud to win this one as I think it's the one I've put most effort into and generally made the most risky moves which could've backfired, and most likely have lost me jury votes anyway I think the reason I enjoyed it so much though was down to how good the players in the cast were, it made it really interesting and the power shifts were really great to be a part of! After this game I think I'm gonna retire from TiBB Games for a while, I think it's time

Thank you so much Reece and DTM for running this, it's been such a great game to play and you have been excellent hosts (even if the times have been fairly sporadic ). You've done an amazing job and I'm sure everyone in this game has had such a great time playing!

[reece(:]

Ross Thanks for playing, you've broken records <3

Good luck to the F2

[Headie]

Survivor TiBB III →→→ Final Two Twist and Reveal!

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Hayden and Lucas, before the jury vote, some have some questions and statements. I will now post some of them.

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Pete asks

Hayden: Do you think aligning with basically everyone has aided or ailed your game?

Lucas: Were you closer aligned to Hayden or Ross?

[TomC]

I am perched for the responses to my statement/questions!

[DrunkerThanMoses]

I know reece said something about going to v festival and I have been working all day so the votes to who has won will be revealed tomorrow at 8.

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Originally Posted by DrunkerThanMoses

Pete asks

Hayden: Do you think aligning with basically everyone has aided or ailed your game?

Lucas: Were you closer aligned to Hayden or Ross?

Riley asks

Hayden: Hello Hayden, you have been fantastic in the immunity challenges and keeping a target off of your back. My question is, how did you go so long without anyone voting you out of the game? Nobody seemed to want to get you out.

Lucas: Hi Lucas, you seemed to have been very good at building an alliance around you that protected you from being eliminated. You also won the immunity pass. My question to you is, do you have any regrets in your game?

Tom C asks

Hayden, as you are aware, I was in an alliance with you since the third task. You may believe that I think you first betrayed my trust when you deliberately voted me out along with Lucas at the final four tribal council. But you’re wrong. I found out you’d told Cal you were his ‘number one ally’, and yet at the next tribal council, you didn’t give the idol to me, nor Cal, but to Lucas. At this point it became clear you were in multiple secret alliances. It is my opinion that integrity and truth are two of the most important things in winning this game, and they are two traits I held true to you until you betrayed me. However, the same cannot be said for you, and you might lose the title for it.


Lucas, I didn’t have that many dealings with you in this game, and I am unsure what your actual tactics were. Many in the jury would argue that you got here by luck, however, I do commend the fact that you won that final 7 pass. The Survivor motto goes ‘Outwit, Outplay, Outlast’. You must outwit and outplay your fellow castaways in order to outlast them. I fail to see good examples of either of you outwitting me: outwitting is different to deceiving and backstabbing. It is also unfortunate that the person who ‘outplayed’ everyone best in this game has just been voted out, and as a result with this decision I’m put in a difficult place. Therefore, my questions to you are:

Hayden: How many people were you allied with in this game, and who was your strongest ally?

Lucas: Can you give a brief overview of your strategy, and did it go as planned?

Ross asks

To both of you, what would you say was your biggest move in the game?

[DrunkerThanMoses]

LukeB asks

Lucas do you think you would have been in the final 2 if you didn't have that pass?

Hayden - do you have any regrets?

[Headie]

I'm getting up early to go to V Fest tomorrow but I'll try and answer as many questions as I can tonight before I go to bed I won't be online til Monday though so I'll miss the winner reveal, so Lucas if you win then congrats in advance!

[Black Dagger]

I will answer these now

[Black Dagger]

Originally Posted by DrunkerThanMoses

Riley asks

Hayden: Hello Hayden, you have been fantastic in the immunity challenges and keeping a target off of your back. My question is, how did you go so long without anyone voting you out of the game? Nobody seemed to want to get you out.

Lucas: Hi Lucas, you seemed to have been very good at building an alliance around you that protected you from being eliminated. You also won the immunity pass. My question to you is, do you have any regrets in your game?

Tom C asks

Hayden, as you are aware, I was in an alliance with you since the third task. You may believe that I think you first betrayed my trust when you deliberately voted me out along with Lucas at the final four tribal council. But you’re wrong. I found out you’d told Cal you were his ‘number one ally’, and yet at the next tribal council, you didn’t give the idol to me, nor Cal, but to Lucas. At this point it became clear you were in multiple secret alliances. It is my opinion that integrity and truth are two of the most important things in winning this game, and they are two traits I held true to you until you betrayed me. However, the same cannot be said for you, and you might lose the title for it.


Lucas, I didn’t have that many dealings with you in this game, and I am unsure what your actual tactics were. Many in the jury would argue that you got here by luck, however, I do commend the fact that you won that final 7 pass. The Survivor motto goes ‘Outwit, Outplay, Outlast’. You must outwit and outplay your fellow castaways in order to outlast them. I fail to see good examples of either of you outwitting me: outwitting is different to deceiving and backstabbing. It is also unfortunate that the person who ‘outplayed’ everyone best in this game has just been voted out, and as a result with this decision I’m put in a difficult place. Therefore, my questions to you are:

Hayden: How many people were you allied with in this game, and who was your strongest ally?

Lucas: Can you give a brief overview of your strategy, and did it go as planned?

Ross asks

To both of you, what would you say was your biggest move in the game?

Originally Posted by DrunkerThanMoses

LukeB asks

Lucas do you think you would have been in the final 2 if you didn't have that pass?

Hayden - do you have any regrets?

Originally Posted by DrunkerThanMoses

Pete asks

Hayden: Do you think aligning with basically everyone has aided or ailed your game?

Lucas: Were you closer aligned to Hayden or Ross?

Riley: Not particularly, I never regret any of my moves or how I play in these sort of games, I just do whatever I can do to survive, actually getting the pass could be perceived as a regret, but it all came down to luck anyway and if that is one of the reasons that gives the edge to have people vote for Hayden over me then I will just have to live with that, he played the game really hard, but I felt I played in a way that was just as risky, I was always tipsy turvy bar my alliance with Hayden, I'd have never turned on him at any stage.

TomC: Hiya luv, I disagree with you that I didn't really have a way of outwitting. I would have gone long before jury had I not took my chance of getting an immunity idol, a whole tribe wanted me out at one stage and I had to blindside Daniel. in order to survive, I may have got lucky with a final 7 pass but the opportunity was there to get one and I got it, I don't think it hindered my game at all, but I did relax for a bit so my strategy from that point was to ensure after final 7 I had alliances and having both Ross and Hayden helping me at different points ensured I got further, it wasn't just a case of them dragging me along, I did my best to make it interesting myself, hence why I gave Samm the chance when I got the opportunity to give a jury member the vote just to see what he'd do and hopefully show the 'weaves' I appreciated their time in the game just as much and hopefully that means I get their jury vote, especially considering Hayden and the others worked hard to get them all out, I do feel what I did was successful in terms of the game, otherwise I wouldn't be at the final two right now, it was never my intentions to get you out to 'outwit' you but having Hayden on board always meant he'd go for you over me at the end stage, so I feel there was some 'outplaying' there.

Ross: My biggest move definitely had to be my one vote blindside, otherwise I'd have ended up in about 14th or however early into the game it was, rather than be a potential winner.

LukeB: In hindsight probably not, I wasn't performing as strongly really in the immunity challenges as I thought I was, but fortunately I did get it and built up a strong enough alliance to get me into the final, but then who is to say I wouldn't have, bar the tribal council when I was whitewashed I never felt anybody was having a strong case to vote me out, because there was times post merge where I wasn't picking up any votes, so people clearly saw bigger threats.

Pete: Hayden and me worked together from the start, he was the one that essentially got me to use the blindside idol when I did, I was going to use it anyway, but it was a stronger incentive when he told me Daniel. was after getting me out. Ross was a good ally for me in the game and I'm sort of glad it turned into a final 2 jury instead of a final 3 jury in the end, because it hopefully ensured I gained his jury vote.

[Headie]

Originally Posted by DrunkerThanMoses

Pete asks

Hayden: Do you think aligning with basically everyone has aided or ailed your game?

It has aided me in the sense that I got to the final two by being in so many alliances, but ailed in the sense that being in so many alliances meant that I was always going to have to betray one in the end which probably has cost me any chance of winning. But I do feel that strategically I put myself in a good position throughout the game which was why I was able to get so far without really being targeted other than one or two rounds. I definitely had a lot of #1 allies, for example I had really good one-on-one relationships with you, Lucas, TomC, LukeB, Shaun and even Cal once all his solid allies had gone (Armand and Samm, who I also get on really well with ), so I do value all those relationships as being genuine, but as a whole I always had it in the back of my mind thinking what move to make next which would benefit me most, who I would have to vote out from someone who I really get on and work well with, and in the end I kinda just said "sod it" after you were evicted and just decided that I wanted an F3 of Lucas and Shaun because those were the two people other than you who I had been 100% open and honest with, and really would not mind losing to them at all.

Originally Posted by DrunkerThanMoses

Riley asks

Hayden: Hello Hayden, you have been fantastic in the immunity challenges and keeping a target off of your back. My question is, how did you go so long without anyone voting you out of the game? Nobody seemed to want to get you out.

I'm not really sure tbh, I knew when I signed up for the game that I would probably be targeted early for being quite competitive and strategic in games like this, and the fact that I only had to visit one tribal council pre-merge definitely worked in my favour. Once merge started I saw winning immunities as the only way to keep myself 100% safe, but the first few ones I did pretty badly in, so I made sure to try and ensure that I had a rough idea of how everyone was voting in order to make sure I didn't vote someone off who had no chance of going. I knew that if I voted with the majority in the early stages then I would be ok for a while, but I soon realised that I would be picked off first out of a big group if I just stuck with that the whole time.

Originally Posted by DrunkerThanMoses

Tom C asks

Hayden, as you are aware, I was in an alliance with you since the third task. You may believe that I think you first betrayed my trust when you deliberately voted me out along with Lucas at the final four tribal council. But you’re wrong. I found out you’d told Cal you were his ‘number one ally’, and yet at the next tribal council, you didn’t give the idol to me, nor Cal, but to Lucas. At this point it became clear you were in multiple secret alliances. It is my opinion that integrity and truth are two of the most important things in winning this game, and they are two traits I held true to you until you betrayed me. However, the same cannot be said for you, and you might lose the title for it.

That's fine, I don't really know what else to say to that tbh other than I disagree that truth is the most important factor to winning this game, since the whole game is about being strategic about who you talk to, what information you give out etc. But everyone interprets the core of the game differently so I get why you view that as the most important.

As for the #1 allies thing, I don't think I'm the only one guilty of that. For example I know you were working with Cal, at one point Shaun, Samm and a few others yet the only one you ever told me about was Samm (and Lucas when we were on the same tribe) so that was partly a reason why I didn't share as much info with you as I was doing at the start of the game since I knew you were PM'ing quite a few different people throughout the game, not just me. Which is fair enough as that's how the game of Survivor is played! And I did tell Cal that he was my #1 ally after Pete left, but that was only because I briefly thought Lucas had voted out Pete with Ross, but then I realised that Ross had the two votes power and Lucas actually voted the same way I did I did want to keep Cal around for longer though once Armand and Samm had gone because he was basically on his own and it would've been stupid to get rid of him for no reason. But then he started regaining allies and sharing info with other people etc (for example as shown here he obviously PM'd you info about me, e.g. me telling him I was his #1 ally etc.) so that's why I trusted him less again at the end. But I genuinely did think Ross was gonna play his idol on Cal at F5 since I thought Ross would think he was safe due to everyone knowing he had the idol, which is why I idoled Lucas so that if Cal had ben idoled, my one vote for Ross would've sent him home. But that was one of my plans which failed

Originally Posted by DrunkerThanMoses

Hayden: How many people were you allied with in this game, and who was your strongest ally?

Like I said before, I had a few official 'alliances' but most of my 'alliances' were in fact just really good bonds with people I had in the game. For strongest ally I'd probably say Pete just because he was the person I 100% trusted coming into this game and I really wanted him to do well, if not win, so I was gutted when he was idoled out. He proved himself to be a great challenge competitor and was quite strategic so I think he was definitely a strong ally to have. However I think pretty much everyone in the game knew me and him were tight so having Lucas as an ally was really beneficial as well since we went fairly undetected throughout the game and somehow have ended up in the final 2 together Our trust built more and more as the game progressed and eventually we worked really well together. In fact the reason for my original flip in the first place was because I knew if I kept voting with the majority I'd have to vote him out soon and I didn't want that.

Originally Posted by DrunkerThanMoses

Ross asks
To both of you, what would you say was your biggest move in the game?

Definitely flipping the vote at final 9 to make it a 5-4 vote to evict Samm over Tom-C. Firstly, I knew Samm, Cal and Armand would be understanding that it's just a game and that flipping would make it more interesting for both them and myself, but I also knew that from a game point, they would definitely target me at any opportunity they had from that point. What people don't really know is that I actually told Shaun about the vote and we agreed that Shaun would vote with them in order to get more info from them about future votes and stuff, so it was all very calculated on my part I knew Samm/Cal/Armand would take each other to F3 so that's why I sent a mass PM to Lucas/Pete/TomC/Ross about evicting Samm and pulling off a blindside so that they would no longer be he majority. IIRC, had I stuck with that alliance, the plan was TomC out 9th, then Ross, then Lucas, and then I probably would've been next after that, finishing 6th. So by flipping with a group of 5 I already helped better my placing by one. It was very much a last-minute, spontaneous risk move on my part but I think it certainly changed the path of the game and in the end not only benefitted myself but a few others as well.

Originally Posted by DrunkerThanMoses

LukeB asks

Hayden - do you have any regrets?

Hmm, voting you out was a regret because I genuinely belied you were gonna come after me, so when the big alliance threw your name out as a potential person to be evicted, I went along with it when really I think if you'd stayed you'd probably have been seen as a bigger threat than me and would've made people target me less.
I also regret not playing my idol to save Pete when Ross played his idol (IIRC I was out at the time of tribal so wasn't able to, but if I'd known Ross was playing his idol to get Pete out then I would've used mine on Pete. But in the end I managed to keep hold of it all the way til the final 5 aka its expiry date, so I played it on Lucas to keep him in and avoid a tie.

[TomC]

I'd just like to clarify I only allied with Cal once we discovered you were strongly allied with both of us and I wasn't ever 'working with' Shaun, not suure who else you're referring to!

[Headie]

Originally Posted by TomC

I'd just like to clarify I only allied with Cal once we discovered you were strongly allied with both of us and I wasn't ever 'working with' Shaun, not suure who else you're referring to!

Shaun told me that you had PM'd him on a few votes asking who you two should vote out, what the strategy was etc which sounded exactly like what you were PM'ing me, so that's why I was slightly doubtful of how loyal you were to our alliance

I knew you were originally working with Samm as that's how we became allies in the first place, and the Cal one I had kinda guessed towards the end. You briefly, very briefly worked with Lucas as well but I think that's a strong testament to how well you played the game and showed that you were really good with your strategy

[T*]

wait how do we ask

[Ross.]

The immunity idol queen of the game is impressed with these responses

[T*]

i want me wuestion asked

[EspeonBB]

V. interesting tea

[armand.kay]

Oh oop wasn't told that this was tonight. Hmm just got up can we vote yet or?

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Originally Posted by Tom*

i want me wuestion asked

Toms question to be answered

What would you do differently if the game restarted?

Originally Posted by armand.kay

Oh oop wasn't told that this was tonight. Hmm just got up can we vote yet or?

Sorry Recce is at v festival (not sure if that lasts a few days or what... showing my age here ) and I got called into work last min yesterday. I dont have any work today, so hopefully I can reveal the winner tonight at 8:00 That depends if I get called into work again, but I will let you guys know

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Had a few Jury votes, but a reminder, Jury you have until 7/7:30 tonight to PM who you want to win

[Black Dagger]

Hi Tom luv. I don't think I'd have done anything differently in the game, if I played it riskier I probably wouldn't be in this position right now, I wasn't the type to alienate the jury and hopefully they see that and vote for me as the winner

[Pete.]

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