[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Originally Posted by Jamie89

I get the feeling the producers think the same, they're basically making it 'The Bear Show'... which probably shows that they really don't want him to be evicted.

Then they should have sent his family in and not his ex. I find it unfair that all the others got family and he was the only one who didn't. So if he goes they have themselves to blame.

[Mitchell]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Then they should have sent his family in and not his ex. I find it unfair that all the others got family and he was the only one who didn't. So if he goes thy have themselves to blame.

He got his girlfriend! Not BB's fault that he decided to be a cheating scumbag on national tv is it?

[Jamie89]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Then they should have sent his family in and not his ex. I find it unfair that all the others got family and he was the only one who didn't. So if he goes they have themselves to blame.

But Bear's whole appeal (seemingly) is that he's 'controversial' and the logic behind his entertainment value seems to be that it doesn't really matter if it's positive or negative attention he's getting, as long as he's getting attention. So putting his ex in would cause drama which the prods want and it would give him more attention too which surely is what his fans want? So I think if anything it would benefit him. Also they did put someone close to him in just like they did with the others, it just so happens that he'd betrayed that person whilst in the house, but that was his own doing and not something that the prods are responsible for accounting for.

[SoberLikeGizmo]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

If he goes they will lose a lot of viewers, because they're clearly manipulating things.

They all ready losing viewers with him in it correct?

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Originally Posted by DrunkerThanMoses

They all ready losing viewers with him in it correct?

They will lose more if he goes.

[Mitchell]

I'd rather a bore win than someone who cheats on national tv like its nothing, a cheater is bad enough, but to do it in that environment where you know your girlfriend (who you seem to be so in love with) is watching along with millions of others knowing you have that girlfriend, young or not, he should grow some ****ing decency, if I did that to a partner on national tv, I'd deserve the ****storm that he deserves.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

It's all scripted nonsense, I don't buy any of it.

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

All housemates got friends and family, he was the only one to get something negative. Bots was also anti Bear, when only recently it has always been pro Bear.

BB have obv decided to shaft him ... They created their own mess and now they don't want to own it ... Damage limitation at the eleventh hour ....better be on the safe side and have a wholesome winner to represent their rapidly ailing show.
I wonder if the very many people who cry ' it's a fix, it's a fix ' all the time, will be absolutely fine about this fix.... I'm guessing they will.
Myself I couldn't care less about any of the tedious relationships these people have in or out of the house, any of them, I'm only interested in being entertained by housemates inside the walls of the big brother house.
If I wanted to go on some moral crusade I would use my time giving my advice to real people I care about not reality TV con artists.
Bear has been the best housemate this year IMO and that is the reason I vote for him.

[hot2go]

In addition to the hypocrisy of the endless ' it's a fix, it's s fix ' brigade I also notice the immediate disappearance of the Bully Police too...
I call that Convenient Morals ... Reminds me of The Church

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

They always exploit this kind of stuff, like when they sent in Casey's mother and Jasmine to give Lee Ryan a hard time. If Bear had chosen to be a half decent person they wouldn't have been able to do it.

..this is the crux of it really, he's his own engineer through his own shabby behaviour in Lillie put in and it all being very public, which is what he decided from the very off...

Originally Posted by Macie Lightfoot

so have we officially reached the "fans of the odds-on favorite to win who is an airtime vacuum come up with conspiracy theories as to why the show wants him to lose even though it's not even remotely true" point of the series?

..I'm just going to re-post Queen Macie's words though......because it's all part of his redemption story and very much still in keeping with The Bear Show, which has been created and the star of their show isn't going anywhere before the final and probably the win....

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..I'm just going to re-post Queen Macie's words though......because it's all part of his redemption story and very much still in keeping with The Bear Show, which has been created and the star of their show isn't going anywhere before the final and probably the win....

Ammi

but really though, this card gets pulled ALL THE DAMN TIME where fans of the probable favorite come up with conspiracy theories about how production is against said HM so when they win in a landslide they can look back and pretend said HM actually had to overcome stuff and this deserved his win. Like, we went through this with Aaron and with Jim Davidson at the exact same times in their respective series. It's old now.

[Ashsleigh]

Big Brother would be doing something right, I suppose.

[Absorption]

The sound of a barrel being scraped as denial becomes even more pronounced...

[Amy Jade]

Maybe they had already contacted Lillie to appear weeks ago, why should BB change their plans to suit him?

He cheated, nobody forced him and even worse he's not showing remorse for it, instead he has tried to somehow lay blame on the victim. Any negativity he gets from the situation is entirely his own fault.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Bear has lasted even longer than I thought he would. So he has done very well. Hope he survives tonight.

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Bear has lasted even longer than I thought he would. So he has done very well. Hope he survives tonight.

Yeh he has survived longer than I expected too...i see it as quite a result to have beaten off the bleeding heart brigade for so long....he has got much closer to a final then any previous housemates like him have.

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by hot2go

Yeh he has survived longer than I expected too...i see it as quite a result to have beaten off the bleeding heart brigade for so long....he has got much closer to a final then any previous housemates like him have.

If that's your opinion of people who just value basic decency, that's really quite sad.

And I fail to believe anyone is surprised Bear's still there, to be quite honest.

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

If that's your opinion of people who just value basic decency, that's really quite sad

I'm not sad at all....I'm just rational and have a very clear understanding of the difference between real life and television....
I don't know what type of people viewers are expecting inside a realty TV show like Big Brother...but from where I'm standing there's Renee who was married to The Mafia, Katie who's granny takes it up the arse , Ricky who took drugs on a live web cam, Renee who spits in people's food and has gone on record as saying Hitler was a brilliant man, Chloe who swapped her baby for fame and fortune, Sam who trashed her own career after getting totally pissed on tele, Grant who dumped his girlfriend just before he entered the house, Bear who dumped his girlfriend just after he entered the house, Marnie who exposed her Tits to another housemate and Biggins who thinks Bisexuals should be hated for the spread of AIDS.

So before you judge me, look at your own basic values pal...

You go to your church and I'll go to mine.

[RichardG]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Bear has lasted even longer than I thought he would. So he has done very well. Hope he survives tonight.

lol of course he's going to survive the eviction, and when he's crowned the winner next week it will be the result that bb has been pushing for all season.

[Liam-]

No, what they've done is give him a reality check and a taste of his own medicine, he's played his game by hurting people and causing upset, but he always dealt with it like there were no victims, well there was a very big victim of his game and he was confronted by her last night and he he showed himself to not have any conscious or heart whatsoever.

To have his 'ex'-girlfriend in front of him, crying her eyes out and spilling her guts about how bad he had hurt and humiliated her, to only smirk and shrug at her showed him to be the scumbag I thought he was all along, even after the event, he went on to slag her off, like how dare she come on here and try to mug me off?! he proved tonight that he isn't a good person, cheats are disgusting in general, but to be so heartless and nonchalant about it, like it was inevitable and that she should have expected it and she should should be grateful that it was now rather than later, just goes to show how much of a nasty piece of work that 'man' (I use that word very loosely in his case) really is, the only person he cares about is himself and that's how it will always be.

I'm under no illusion that he'll go tonight, he'll still probably make the final and win, but with the likes of Stephanie and Scotty being the top 2 of the January series, I can't say I'll be that surprised, people seem to love cheaters these days for some reason.

[Babayaro.]

Originally Posted by Liam-

No, what they've done is give him a reality check and a taste of his own medicine, he's played his game by hurting people and causing upset, but he always dealt with it like there were no victims, well there was a very big victim of his game and he was confronted by her last night and he he showed himself to not have any conscious or heart whatsoever.

To have his 'ex'-girlfriend in front of him, crying her eyes out and spilling her guts about how bad he had hurt and humiliated her, to only smirk and shrug at her showed him to be the scumbag I thought he was all along, even after the event, he went on to slag her off, like how dare she come on here and try to mug me off?! he proved tonight that he isn't a good person, cheats are disgusting in general, but to be so heartless and nonchalant about it, like it was inevitable and that she should have expected it and she should should be grateful that it was now rather than later, just goes to show how much of a nasty piece of work that 'man' (I use that word very loosely in his case) really is, the only person he cares about is himself and that's how it will always be.

I'm under no illusion that he'll go tonight, he'll still probably make the final and win, but with the likes of Stephanie and Scotty being the top 2 of the January series, I can't say I'll be that surprised, people seem to love cheaters these days for some reason.

Fantastic post

[jet]

Originally Posted by Liam-

No, what they've done is give him a reality check and a taste of his own medicine, he's played his game by hurting people and causing upset, but he always dealt with it like there were no victims, well there was a very big victim of his game and he was confronted by her last night and he he showed himself to not have any conscious or heart whatsoever.

To have his 'ex'-girlfriend in front of him, crying her eyes out and spilling her guts about how bad he had hurt and humiliated her, to only smirk and shrug at her showed him to be the scumbag I thought he was all along, even after the event, he went on to slag her off, like how dare she come on here and try to mug me off?! he proved tonight that he isn't a good person, cheats are disgusting in general, but to be so heartless and nonchalant about it, like it was inevitable and that she should have expected it and she should should be grateful that it was now rather than later, just goes to show how much of a nasty piece of work that 'man' (I use that word very loosely in his case) really is, the only person he cares about is himself and that's how it will always be.

I'm under no illusion that he'll go tonight, he'll still probably make the final and win, but with the likes of Stephanie and Scotty being the top 2 of the January series, I can't say I'll be that surprised, people seem to love cheaters these days for some reason.

Great post

[bots]

i don't think its a case of them needing to do anything to get evicted and the production couldn't care less. The only interest is in voting revenue and if other housemates get more votes, money talks. When bear is up against housemates with a large fanbase outwith the show, thats when the his popularity can truly be measured. Tonight with Sam and Ricky untested in the mix, its going to be interesting.

[cassieparis]

I don't get why some watchers believe the Producers care who wins or loses. They care about rivals to the odds on favourites.
This is because such people increase the vote. It's a business. It isn't personal!! (although it may feel like it)

The majority of managers in any business aren't more concerned or involved in the workers' personalities but the quality of product that they produce, first and foremost. They will indulge unbearable personalities, if they produce results. Even if they alienate less successful employees.

The Producers will manipulate interactions to create rivalry to the favourites. Sometimes that means manipulating things to keep controversial people in. Like Bear. IMO.

[waterhog]

Originally Posted by cassieparis

I don't get why some watchers believe the Producers care who wins or loses. They care about rivals to the odds on favourites.
This is because such people increase the vote. It's a business. It isn't personal!! (although it may feel like it)

The majority of managers in any business aren't more concerned or involved in the workers' personalities but the quality of product that they produce, first and foremost. They will indulge unbearable personalities, if they produce results. Even if they alienate less successful employees.

The Producers will manipulate interactions to create rivalry to the favourites. Sometimes that means manipulating things to keep controversial people in. Like Bear. IMO.

allot of truth in that.