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Mitchell · 19-08-2016, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Vanessa

So why not send other housemates exes? They wouldn't have liked it either.

Did any of the others cheat on their partner whilst in the house? If so then sure! Him and Lillie were together up to when he cheated on her in the house, which made her his girlfriend.

I'm just glad the cheating scumbag was pulled up for it and people saw his true colours.

Vanessa · 19-08-2016, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Mitchell

Did any of the others cheat on their partner whilst in the house? If so then sure! Him and Lillie were together up to when he cheated on her in the house, which made her his girlfriend.

I'm just glad the cheating scumbag was pulled up for it and people saw his true colours.

No idea, but many would not want to see their exes.

Mitchell · 19-08-2016, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Amy Jade

It's not his fault, he's the obvious victim here

Obviously! I mean if Lillie was in the house and cheated on Bear, she'd be called a witch, a slapper, a ***** you name it, but no, Bear is just a lad, because he's been entertaining he can get away with doing this vile act, anyone who cheats is scum in the first place, let alone on national TV, making a fool of his girlfriend in front of millions.

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Originally Posted by Vanessa

Big Brother want him out, so they will give him the worse edit they can. They know that one bad show can be enough to get someone evicted.

BB know that Bear will do loads of TV stuff for C5 and will appear on bots, they want him to stay, hence why he's had the most airtime and why James has disappeared of the face of the earth!

Mitchell · 19-08-2016, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Vanessa

No idea, but many would not want to see their exes.

I'm sorry Ness, but I think I'll have to agree to disagree, Bear deserves to be shown to be a lying, cheating twat, as would anybody who could do that to someone they claim to love on national tv.

Absorption · 19-08-2016, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Mitchell

Did any of the others cheat on their partner whilst in the house? If so then sure! Him and Lillie were together up to when he cheated on her in the house, which made her his girlfriend.

I'm just glad the cheating scumbag was pulled up for it and people saw his true colours.

Exactly.

He won't leave tonight, though. The people convinced that BB wants him out will perform a bizarre kind of 'saving the underdog (underbear?!)' ritual and waste even more of their money making Endemol/Channel 5 rich.

It would be soooo boring without him, wouldn't it...zzzzzzzzzzzzz...*fart*...oops, sorry, woke myself up with a botty-pop there!

Vanessa · 19-08-2016, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Mitchell

Obviously! I mean if Lillie was in the house and cheated on Bear, she'd be called a witch, a slapper, a ***** you name it, but no, Bear is just a lad, because he's been entertaining he can get away with doing this vile act, anyone who cheats is scum in the first place, let alone on national TV, making a fool of his girlfriend in front of millions.

BB know that Bear will do loads of TV stuff for C5 and will appear on bots, they want him to stay, hence why he's had the most airtime and why James has disappeared of the face of the earth!

If they wanted him to stay they wouldn't have sent his ex in. When he has his dad and brother who are supporting him.

Jamie89 · 19-08-2016, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Vanessa

Then they should have sent his family in and not his ex. I find it unfair that all the others got family and he was the only one who didn't. So if he goes they have themselves to blame.

But Bear's whole appeal (seemingly) is that he's 'controversial' and the logic behind his entertainment value seems to be that it doesn't really matter if it's positive or negative attention he's getting, as long as he's getting attention. So putting his ex in would cause drama which the prods want and it would give him more attention too which surely is what his fans want? So I think if anything it would benefit him. Also they did put someone close to him in just like they did with the others, it just so happens that he'd betrayed that person whilst in the house, but that was his own doing and not something that the prods are responsible for accounting for.

Ashley. · 19-08-2016, 09:27 AM

Big Brother would be doing something right, I suppose.

Amy Jade · 19-08-2016, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Mitchell

Obviously! I mean if Lillie was in the house and cheated on Bear, she'd be called a witch, a slapper, a ***** you name it, but no, Bear is just a lad, because he's been entertaining he can get away with doing this vile act, anyone who cheats is scum in the first place, let alone on national TV, making a fool of his girlfriend in front of millions.

Just look at last year, Steph was ripped apart on here for cheating on Sam, it only calmed down really after it was revealed he had cheated multiple times on her and treated her quite badly in general.

Bear I'd getting off so lightly in comparrison

Vanessa · 19-08-2016, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Jamie89

But Bear's whole appeal (seemingly) is that he's 'controversial' and the logic behind his entertainment value seems to be that it doesn't really matter if it's positive or negative attention he's getting, as long as he's getting attention. So putting his ex in would cause drama which the prods want and it would give him more attention too which surely is what his fans want? So I think if anything it would benefit him. Also they did put someone close to him in just like they did with the others, it just so happens that he'd betrayed that person whilst in the house, but that was his own doing and not something that the prods are responsible for accounting for.

Putting an ex in is never a good idea. I wouldn't want to see any of mine

Lostie! · 19-08-2016, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Vanessa

I think he's young and in many ways still immature. But I'm sure he will mature with age. I was the same at his age: couldn't hold down a relationship

He's a grown man, he should have already matured. I'm younger than him and I don't carry on the way he does so age is no excuse. He's just a knobhead and I don't see him ever outgrowing that.

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Originally Posted by Vanessa

If he goes they will lose a lot of viewers, because they're clearly manipulating things.

They have been the whole time by giving Bear so much focus when it's just been the same old boring, contrived rubbish from him.

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So why not send other housemates exes? They wouldn't have liked it either.

If any of the others decided to cheat on and dump their partners while in the house I'm sure they would have.

They always exploit this kind of stuff, like when they sent in Casey's mother and Jasmine to give Lee Ryan a hard time. If Bear had chosen to be a half decent person they wouldn't have been able to do it.

Absorption · 19-08-2016, 09:29 AM

The sound of a barrel being scraped as denial becomes even more pronounced...

Mitchell · 19-08-2016, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Vanessa

If they wanted him to stay they wouldn't have sent his ex in. When he has his dad and brother who are supporting him.

They want him to stay, they're giving him loads of airtime, on top of that they're showing him crying and having a revelation, they're giving him a winners edit. Well in my opinion obviously, as I said, he deserves being confronted by Lillie, he's been a vile twat to her and deserves everything he gets, anybody that would get with him now is a ****ing idiot

Mitchell · 19-08-2016, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Vanessa

Putting an ex in is never a good idea. I wouldn't want to see any of mine

But if your boyfriend went into the house (who you've discussed marriage with) and then cheated on you and dumped you on national tv, would you be best pleased?

Amy Jade · 19-08-2016, 09:32 AM

Maybe they had already contacted Lillie to appear weeks ago, why should BB change their plans to suit him?

He cheated, nobody forced him and even worse he's not showing remorse for it, instead he has tried to somehow lay blame on the victim. Any negativity he gets from the situation is entirely his own fault.

Mitchell · 19-08-2016, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Amy Jade

Just look at last year, Steph was ripped apart on here for cheating on Sam, it only calmed down really after it was revealed he had cheated multiple times on her and treated her quite badly in general.

Bear I'd getting off so lightly in comparrison

I totally agree, Bear is having excuses made for him, there is NEVER a valid excuse for cheating like this.

Vanessa · 19-08-2016, 09:35 AM

Bear has lasted even longer than I thought he would. So he has done very well.

Hope he survives tonight.

Ammi · 19-08-2016, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Lostie!

They always exploit this kind of stuff, like when they sent in Casey's mother and Jasmine to give Lee Ryan a hard time. If Bear had chosen to be a half decent person they wouldn't have been able to do it.

..this is the crux of it really, he's his own engineer through his own shabby behaviour in Lillie put in and it all being very public, which is what he decided from the very off...

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so have we officially reached the "fans of the odds-on favorite to win who is an airtime vacuum come up with conspiracy theories as to why the show wants him to lose even though it's not even remotely true" point of the series?

..I'm just going to re-post Queen Macie's words though...

...because it's all part of his redemption story and very much still in keeping with The Bear Show, which has been created and the star of their show isn't going anywhere before the final and probably the win....

Liam- · 19-08-2016, 09:44 AM

No, what they've done is give him a reality check and a taste of his own medicine, he's played his game by hurting people and causing upset, but he always dealt with it like there were no victims, well there was a very big victim of his game and he was confronted by her last night and he he showed himself to not have any conscious or heart whatsoever.

To have his 'ex'-girlfriend in front of him, crying her eyes out and spilling her guts about how bad he had hurt and humiliated her, to only smirk and shrug at her showed him to be the scumbag I thought he was all along, even after the event, he went on to slag her off, like how dare she come on here and try to mug me off?! he proved tonight that he isn't a good person, cheats are disgusting in general, but to be so heartless and nonchalant about it, like it was inevitable and that she should have expected it and she should should be grateful that it was now rather than later, just goes to show how much of a nasty piece of work that 'man' (I use that word very loosely in his case) really is, the only person he cares about is himself and that's how it will always be.

I'm under no illusion that he'll go tonight, he'll still probably make the final and win, but with the likes of Stephanie and Scotty being the top 2 of the January series, I can't say I'll be that surprised, people seem to love cheaters these days for some reason.

hot2go · 19-08-2016, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Vanessa

Bear has lasted even longer than I thought he would. So he has done very well.

Hope he survives tonight.

Yeh he has survived longer than I expected too...i see it as quite a result to have beaten off the bleeding heart brigade for so long....he has got much closer to a final then any previous housemates like him have.

Ammi · 19-08-2016, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Mitchell

Obviously! I mean if Lillie was in the house and cheated on Bear, she'd be called a witch, a slapper, a ***** you name it, but no, Bear is just a lad, because he's been entertaining he can get away with doing this vile act, anyone who cheats is scum in the first place, let alone on national TV, making a fool of his girlfriend in front of millions.

BB know that Bear will do loads of TV stuff for C5 and will appear on bots, they want him to stay, hence why he's had the most airtime and why James has disappeared of the face of the earth!

..yeah, I said this earlier in a thread because it's what I was thinking last night when watching...I mean, can you imagine if it had been reversed and she had acted like him in every other way as well with the winding up and throwing food around as well as the cheating etc...I mean, Chloe doesn't even have a boyfriend and for her part in anything Bear related she's had some awful stuff said about her....

Lostie! · 19-08-2016, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by hot2go

Yeh he has survived longer than I expected too...i see it as quite a result to have beaten off the bleeding heart brigade for so long....he has got much closer to a final then any previous housemates like him have.

If that's your opinion of people who just value basic decency, that's really quite sad.

And I fail to believe anyone is surprised Bear's still there, to be quite honest.

Mitchell · 19-08-2016, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Ammi

..yeah, I said this earlier in a thread because it's what I was thinking last night when watching...I mean, can you imagine if it had been reversed and she had acted like him in every other way as well with the winding up and throwing food around as well as the cheating etc...I mean, Chloe doesn't even have a boyfriend and for her part in anything Bear related she's had some awful stuff said about her....

But no, Bear is the man so it's all alright