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Old 21-09-2016, 11:20 AM #1
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I don't get it. This guy's volunteered to actually have his head chopped off?

These stories are getting more and more macabre.
They guy is severely disabled though and wanting a better quality of life, I guess its a bit more understandable if he hates being chair bound and that so much...to take the risk of being 'better'.

Creepy though that from the sounds of it they will be attaching him to a dead body

Infact the whole thing is creepy. But interesting all the same.
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And on that last note, I also find the idea of brains being transplanted into fully synthetic bodies pretty interesting . I think it will definitely happen at some point and could be a route towards, effectively, immortality.
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And on that last note, I also find the idea of brains being transplanted into fully synthetic bodies pretty interesting . I think it will definitely happen at some point and could be a route towards, effectively, immortality.
God now THAT is scary. We would be robots but with actual I instead of AI

Have there been any studies on how long a brain can work without illnesses/body and such? By this..have they ever tried to keep a brain alive after the body is gone? I expect not as that sounds horrid but thats the way we would have to go I think if this ever was spoken about...

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God now THAT is scary. We would be robots but with actual I instead of AI

Have there been any studies on how long a brain can work without illnesses/body and such? By this..have they ever tried to keep a brain alive after the body is gone? I expect not as that sounds horrid but thats the way we would have to go I think if this ever was spoken about...
There are loads of questions there too. Like would it be a dead cert for dementia to set in over 100? How much is that linked to body condition? What are the time limits on human memory?

To answer the basics though, no its not possible yet to remove a brain without damaging it beyond repair.
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There are loads of questions there too. Like would it be a dead cert for dementia to set in over 100? How much is that linked to body condition? What are the time limits on human memory?

To answer the basics though, no its not possible yet to remove a brain without damaging it beyond repair.
Bu this guy reckons he will be able to do it by next year? Hmm...
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Bu this guy reckons he will be able to do it by next year? Hmm...
The whole head, not taking the brain out
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There are loads of questions there too. Like would it be a dead cert for dementia to set in over 100? How much is that linked to body condition? What are the time limits on human memory?

To answer the basics though, no its not possible yet to remove a brain without damaging it beyond repair.
That would be an interesting test.The limit on memory.If a 300 year old could remember anything from childhood or even their 20's.Although most peoples 20's are abit of a blur.
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...he predicts a 90% success for the transplant, that's pretty darn high...surely that's a lot higher than some fairly standard by comparison surgeries and I don't understand how that could be predicted with something that's never been done before....
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I saw this yesterday,it kind of freaks me out.
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No it is the full head + brain... Basically putting some ones head from a "broken body" onto a working body. Like a limb transplant but with the full thing.

Spinal cord reattachment is possible in ideal circumstances, I guess it doesn't work very often after accidents because the cord has been randomly "torn" rather than surgically severed on purpose in just the right place? That would be my guess, anyway.

It's definitely an interesting one because if donor rejection which is linked to the immune system... But the immune system I think is within the body rather than the head so it would be the head that was rejected rather than the donor body. Having your immune system attacking your head and brain would probably be pretty unpleasant .
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No it is the full head + brain... Basically putting some ones head from a "broken body" onto a working body. Like a limb transplant but with the full thing.

Spinal cord reattachment is possible in ideal circumstances, I guess it doesn't work very often after accidents because the cord has been randomly "torn" rather than surgically severed on purpose in just the right place? That would be my guess, anyway.

It's definitely an interesting one because if donor rejection which is linked to the immune system... But the immune system I think is within the body rather than the head so it would be the head that was rejected rather than the donor body. Having your immune system attacking your head and brain would probably be pretty unpleasant .
Some researchers are saying that's a contributory factor in Alzheimer's i believe, so yes, wouldn't end well.

I'm all for medical advancement, I'm just a bit sceptical that this is so close to reality on a human, when I haven't even heard of it being successful on pigs for example .... may be i'm just ill informed
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Some researchers are saying that's a contributory factor in Alzheimer's i believe, so yes, wouldn't end well.

I'm all for medical advancement, I'm just a bit sceptical that this is so close to reality on a human, when I haven't even heard of it being successful on pigs for example .... may be i'm just ill informed
True, you would think they would have done it successfully with an animal long before they would be even talking about humans.
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Do you wonder vanessa if it is possible,didn't people at one time think heart transplants could never take place,but the head seems different,proper creepy
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that surgeon in the video appeared to have a degree of scepticism too

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