[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...last post..(I think.....)...Miley has every right to make comment in as much as any of us do or any other celebrity does...as Robert De Niro, Tom Hanks, Arnold Schwarzenegger or anyone else who have been offended and worried by what he said....we don't know anyone's moral compass more than anyone else's and a stage act/a persona is no indication at all...it's simply that/a stage act..and it's invited of anything it involves...Donald Trump showed no respect, no consideration for females in what he said...he inferred an abuse of power that he saw as a 'perk'....he hasn't denied that, those are his words and how he said those words....how he's excused that offence and disregard of females he showed though...?....by offending males as well in inferring it was just typical 'male locker room talk'....he offends my granddad, my father, my brothers, my husband, my sons and I would think that Withano's offence and stance on this is because he offends him as well...and that was his 'excuse' to make it all seem less worrying....that we're to be assured and feel fine because many males find sexual assault a source of amusement while having their 'mentalk'....as Tom Hanks said, he offends everyone whether male or female and that's all he could think of to 'excuse/explain'...

Two things Ammi - I do not disagree with any of which you write about Trump. My post was not debating the rights and wrongs of Trump being any of those things, my post is about the credibility and motives of just SOME of those who are jumping onto the 'anti-Trump' bandwagon.

Secondly, I respect your opinion on Miley Cyrus, but I can never agree with it.

Her 'twerking' and a lot of her other calculated displays and comments, have been executed OUTSIDE of any stage performance, but always well publicised because of the notoriety value, and I cannot recall any other celebrity who has spoken out about Trump ever having indulged in similar 'self-promotional' morally questionable behaviour.

I firmly believe that, unlike De Niro, Tom Hanks et al, Cyrus is cynically seizing yet another opportunity to 'jump on a bandwagon' for her own gain - making herself more popular to raise her 'Marquee Value' for example.

Incidentally, being an 'offended male' does not mitigate or excuse Withano's offensive comments in respect of myself.