[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by the truth

We are not allowed to ask them for proof of age

Would they actually have proof of age though? Curiosity here as I did think yeah why don't we do that to start with, but then figured they are unlikely to have birth certificates and that so besides this we could check their ages by what? Dental checks, bone density and such?

Anyway as I said earlier I don't blame them and their families for lying. But it does mean less real children get in at the same time.

To be quite honest, I think we should be 'letting people in' who are in the refugee camps bordering war torn places. As those people stuck there are more likely to be vulnerable than those who have managed to make the journey to France

Horrible horrible situation either way though. I am so conflicted on this its unreal..it hurts my head

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Would they actually have proof of age though? Curiosity here as I did think yeah why don't we do that to start with, but then figured they are unlikely to have birth certificates and that so besides this we could check their ages by what? Dental checks, bone density and such?

Anyway as I said earlier I don't blame them and their families for lying. But it does mean less real children get in at the same time.

To be quite honest, I think we should be 'letting people in' who are in the refugee camps bordering war torn places. As those people stuck there are more likely to be vulnerable than those who have managed to make the journey to France

Horrible horrible situation either way though. I am so conflicted on this its unreal..it hurts my head

These should be priority for sure

[bots]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Would they actually have proof of age though? Curiosity here as I did think yeah why don't we do that to start with, but then figured they are unlikely to have birth certificates and that so besides this we could check their ages by what? Dental checks, bone density and such?

Anyway as I said earlier I don't blame them and their families for lying. But it does mean less real children get in at the same time.

To be quite honest, I think we should be 'letting people in' who are in the refugee camps bordering war torn places. As those people stuck there are more likely to be vulnerable than those who have managed to make the journey to France

Horrible horrible situation either way though. I am so conflicted on this its unreal..it hurts my head

The British government have always said they are happy to take genuine refugees directly from the refugee camps bordering the war torn areas, provided their situation is verified.

Quite honestly, saying people face war ravage in France is just ridiculous. They are safe there, no immediate threat to their safety. Those people in the camps at Calais are there because they are illegals and have nowhere else to go. So, trying to make them a sympathy case, is just such a stretch, and does detract from those in genuine suffering in the war torn areas.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

The British government have always said they are happy to take genuine refugees directly from the refugee camps bordering the war torn areas, provided their situation is verified.

Quite honestly, saying people face war ravage in France is just ridiculous. They are safe there, no immediate threat to their safety. Those people in the camps at Calais are there because they are illegals and have nowhere else to go. So, trying to make them a sympathy case, is just such a stretch, and does detract from those in genuine suffering in the war torn areas.

...so why don't we? Why take in so many from Calais?

This tends to be an unpopular opinion but I realized pretty recently that most of those 'stuck' in Calais are economic migrants rather than people who are destitute and in need of help. Now, I see nothing wrong in wanting more cash or whatever for your family..or preferring the UK because its more 'tolerant' or for our NHS or whatever, but at this moment I think its a bit crap to be prioritizing people like this over those genuinely fearing for their lives but unable leave the camps bordering Syria and the likes..you know, those who actually are very vulnerable..so much so they haven't been able to travel thousands of miles and pass through many safe countries?

[bots]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

...so why don't we? Why take in so many from Calais?

This tends to be an unpopular opinion but I realized pretty recently that most of those 'stuck' in Calais are economic migrants rather than people who are destitute and in need of help. Now, I see nothing wrong in wanting more cash or whatever for your family..or preferring the UK because its more 'tolerant' or for our NHS or whatever, but at this moment I think its a bit crap to be prioritizing people like this over those genuinely fearing for their lives but unable leave the camps bordering Syria and the likes..you know, those who actually are very vulnerable..so much so they haven't been able to travel thousands of miles and pass through many safe countries?

we do take them from the refugee camps next to Syria, we have been doing it and are still doing it .... I'm getting really angry and frustrated at people classifying those in Calais the same ... its just sooooooo wrong on so many levels.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

we do take them from the refugee camps next to Syria, we have been doing it and are still doing it .... I'm getting really angry and frustrated at people classifying those in Calais the same ... its just sooooooo wrong on so many levels.

Yeah, I thought of them as the same until very recently and it quite annoys me too now seeing other people with that opinion

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

we do take them from the refugee camps next to Syria, we have been doing it and are still doing it .... I'm getting really angry and frustrated at people classifying those in Calais the same ... its just sooooooo wrong on so many levels.

the ones in calais seem to be Afghans?

[bots]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

the ones in calais seem to be Afghans?

i think its a general assortment, the majority of which, if not all, are not considered refugees at all. The country they come from has to be classified accordingly and Afghanistan certainly isn't

[Cherry Christmas]

Agencies were running around the camp in Calais to round up the vulnerable "children" before it was bulldozed, these "children" all had families in the UK and this is how it was sold to the public, I would like to see a breakdown of the 300 that were rescued and the percentages of age and how many families etc