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Just saw this. People are overreacting. She didn't really say anything bad at all and certainly didn't compare him as a person to Savile (but more the situation) and just because he's dead, it doesn't mean she has to pretend she's sad about it. She did live with him after all and met him in person and he treated her awfully in CBB (and outside of CBB) for years which isn't really comparable to a bunch of viewers who've never met him finding him entertaining on a reality TV show so I can understand how she feels. If she was being distasteful or doing it for attention, she would've accepted the TV offer and slated him on television (which then IA would've been disgusting).

Plus what Cal said about him doing the same if she had died.

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She compared situations, and used Jimmy as an example of a person who is dead but people still speak ill of. She didn't compare them as people.
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...they had no respect for each other at all and I don't think that Pete would have been bothered in her saying anything negative about him but I do think that he may have been bothered about her referring to Jimmy Savile in the same sentence..Jimmy Savile was evil, Pete was not...whether Jodie feels personally that he was isn't really the point...if she feels that he was such an awful person to be negatively vocal about his death/if she feels that he was that bad.../then what does that say about her, because to me she must have matched and equalled him in being quite a grim person just by her words.../she can say what she wishes of course and what she feels... but then she'll be judged as she judged Pete...
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She compared situations, and used Jimmy as an example of a person who is dead but people still speak ill of. She didn't compare them as people.
But they speak ill of him because he was a vile child abuser which wasn't discovered until after he died.

No comparison required. She had nothing nice to say about him, that's not surprising, but the mature thing would've been to say nothing at all.
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yeah he was so mean on a reality tv show <\3
*excuses Jade's ~racist~ bullying on CBB5 because it was on a reality tv show*


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But they speak ill of him because he was a vile child abuser which wasn't discovered until after he died.

No comparison required. She had nothing nice to say about him, that's not surprising, but the mature thing would've been to say nothing at all.
...I guess the only thing I would say is that (I think she was asked..)...but anyway, she probably didn't know how to feel, it's a difficult one and just said something completely inappropriate..(the Savile comment..)...and the problem is that once it's out there on social sites, then it's out there and being dissected by all, you know...
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Bore off Jodie Marsh.
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But they speak ill of him because he was a vile child abuser which wasn't discovered until after he died.

No comparison required. She had nothing nice to say about him, that's not surprising, but the mature thing would've been to say nothing at all.
She rufused to speak ill of Pete but refused to pretend she liked him either after he treated her so badly. Why is she expected to respect somebody who bullied her?

Again, she never compared Pete's action's to Saville's she just used him as an example of a person who people speak ill of even though he is dead.
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She rufused to speak ill of Pete but refused to pretend she liked him either after he treated her so badly. Why is she expected to respect somebody who bullied her?
Nobody is expecting her to pay her respects to him.

Saying nothing would've sufficed.
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Why should she remain quiet? Pete sure didn't when asked about Jodie
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...maybe Pete would love that it's all added to him being talked about...
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Why should she remain quiet? Pete sure didn't when asked about Jodie
Jodie's not been dead less than 48 hours with family and friends who might read comments?

But, yes, a CBB feud from almost 11 years ago is of such importance it needs to be discussed and brought up immediately. Almost as much as Saville's crimes.
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Jodie's not been dead less than 48 hours with family and friends who might read comments?

But, yes, a CBB feud from almost 11 years agony is of such importance it needs to be discussed and brought up immediately. Almost as much as Saville's crimes.
if they have any sense they will stay off social media
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I'm sure Pete would get flack if he was to be insensitive also, that's not disputed
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The whole Jimmy thing is blown out of proportion, it's something that the newspapers would do to make it something it's not. She didn't compare Pete and Jimmy, she never said they were similar or did similar things, she just gave an example of someone who gets spoken ill of because it's a popular choice. She said that to someone who mentioned about speaking ill of the dead and you need an example to support that argument/debate, practically every celeb gets spoken ill of and she could have said anyone else, She wasn't comparing anything.
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The whole Jimmy thing is blown out of proportion, it's something that the newspapers would do to make it something it's not. She didn't compare Pete and Jimmy, she never said they were similar or did similar things, she just gave an example of someone who gets spoken ill of because it's a popular choice. She said that to someone who mentioned about speaking ill of the dead and you need an example to support that argument/debate, practically every celeb gets spoken ill of and she could have said anyone else, She wasn't comparing anything.
We all know what she meant.

But it's as preposterous as when Hitler/Nazis get brought up in arguments. A daft extreme example that wasn't needed.
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People are acting like Pete is still alive like chill. Remember Savile was trashed a year after his death if we really want to compare. I actually preferred Jodie to Pete while she was in the house at the same time as him, but I don't support the way she is speaking about a man who died under 48 hours ago. It's all well and good saying Pete would do the same, and if he did I would have equal distain. It strikes me that she has a lack of PR media/social media training as she should have not commented on Pete's death in the slightest for a while at least. Just comes across as being disrespectful and distasteful at this time, and yes I do think she was bullied in the house (not only Pete though). A case of 'if you have nothing nice to say, don't say anything'
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But, yes, a CBB feud from almost 11 years ago is of such importance it needs to be discussed and brought up immediately. Almost as much as Saville's crimes.
When their family member or friend made a career for being controversial and out right rude after the music career stalled they should expect a few people to not adore him quite frankly.
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People are acting like Pete is still alive like chill. Remember Savile was trashed a year after his death if we really want to compare.
There is no comparison. Saville was trashed a year later because of what was discovered about him.

We know Pete treated Jodie unpleasantly in CBB back in January 2006. It's of no relevance now except to give her a bit of attention immediately after his death.
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When their family member or friend made a career for being controversial and out right rude after the music career stalled they should expect a few people to not adore him quite frankly.
Missing the point... again.

Nobody's asking Jodie Marsh or anyone else to adore him.
She's nothing to Pete, so no comment at all would've completely sufficed.
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Freedom of speech. Maybe she'd be nicer if he wasn't an absoloute prick towards her.
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I'm also not missing any point, if anything you're confusing yours.

No matter the time scale he was disgusting towards her, no matter the time scale she can make any comments she wants...48 hours or not he's only getting slated because of how he treated others.
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Also why does she still have so much resentment over a 10 year old situation? Even Shilpa moved on and made peace with Jade (didn't slate her once when Jade passed) and she was treated far worse.
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