[Withano]

This is obviously terrible..

Naming no names, but theres a few on here who thought the burqa should be banned in the UK, it'll be interesting to see if they have a problem with Christians being told how to dress..

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Withano

This is obviously terrible..

Naming no names, but theres a few on here who thought the burqa should be banned in the UK, it'll be interesting to see if they have a problem with Christians being told how to dress..

Actually it should probably be banned everywhere because it is religious oppression of women. As should any religious doctrine telling people to stone other human beings for perceived wrongs/immodesty, telling people what to wear and that they aren't allowed to use contraceptives etc.

Unfortunately there are people who think that is all OK in the name of religion because some man told everyone god said it.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by jaxie

Actually it should probably be banned everywhere because it is religious oppression of women. As should any religious doctrine telling people to stone other human beings for perceived wrongs/immodesty, telling people what to wear and that they aren't allowed to use contraceptives etc.

Unfortunately there are people who think that is all OK in the name of religion because some man told everyone god said it.

But youre not really saying burquas are forced on women by men therefore they should be banned and they should take them off immediately. That would be hypocritical. Youre not really saying that Brits can force dresscodes off people but Egyptians may not do the opposite. That would also be hypocritical.

So what are you really saying, that post didnt come off well.

I think your point is that 'anti-religion' is superior to 'any religion' therefore act like me. But thats a bit too dark of a discussion for me to have. Live and let live etc. Lets not force the burquas off people, lets not force burquas on people, lets sympathise and join in outrage when people try to enforce one rule or the other.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Withano

But youre not really saying burquas are forced on women by men therefore they should be banned and they should take them off immediately. That would be hypocritical. Youre not really saying that Brits can force dresscodes off people but Egyptians may not do the opposite. That would also be hypocritical.

So what are you really saying, that post didnt come off well.

What I'm saying is forcing anyone to wear a religious uniform is wrong. Brainwashing people into wearing a religious uniform is also wrong. Personally I think the world would be a happier place without silly made up religious rules.

Unfortunately stopping the use of religious uniform would probably require banning it which in a sense would also be forcing it to end. In an ideal world people get to choose, in reality very few do. Bear in mind my use of the word probably. Probably for the greater good religious uniform ought to banned. In reality that is difficult to do without taking away the right to choose. What I think might be the better route isn't necessary the route that can be taken. However I do think there might be a case with regard hidden faces and head to floor covering with regard hidden terrorism/crime.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by jaxie

What I'm saying is forcing anyone to wear a religious uniform is wrong. Brainwashing people into wearing a religious uniform is also wrong. Personally I think the world would be a happier place without silly made up religious rules.

Unfortunately stopping the use of religious uniform would probably require banning it which in a sense would also be forcing it to end. In an ideal world people get to choose, in reality very few do. Bear in mind my use of the word probably. Probably for the greater good religious uniform ought to banned. In reality that is difficult to do without taking away the right to choose. What I think might be the better route isn't necessary the route that can be taken. However I do think there might be a case with regard hidden faces and head to floor covering with regard hidden terrorism/crime.

Alright, I just think its a bit hypocritical.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Withano

Alright, I just think its a bit hypocritical.

What exactly do you find hypocritical about it?

[Withano]

Originally Posted by jaxie

What exactly do you find hypocritical about it?

Literally all of it.

[jennyjuniper]

Originally Posted by jaxie

Actually it should probably be banned everywhere because it is religious oppression of women. As should any religious doctrine telling people to stone other human beings for perceived wrongs/immodesty, telling people what to wear and that they aren't allowed to use contraceptives etc.

Unfortunately there are people who think that is all OK in the name of religion because some man told everyone god said it.

Well said Jaxie.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Withano

The point of the thread is that it is awful that Christian children in Egypt are being told how to dress..

An additional point that I made is that it will be ironic if those who believe burquas should be banned would become outraged at this, as they would be blissfully unaware that they would be contradicting themselves.

Telling Christians which items of clothing to wear is disgusting, similarly it os disgusting to tell anybody of any religion which articles of clothing to not wear. Anybody who hates one but preaches the other is contradicting themselves and are hypocritical.

You are not missing THE point Withano - you are missing lots of points. But before I expound, here is an image showing just what a Burqa is along with other traditional forms of coverings for Muslim women:

As can CLEARLY be seen, the BURQA is SINISTER and COVERS the ENTIRE wearer - to the point where identification of GENDER is impossible let alone identity of the wearer.

Nearly as bad, from a CONCEALMENT perspective, is the NIQAB, with the CHADOR - when it is worn high up the face so that only the eyes are revealed - as it is more often than not, being just as bad from the same perspective .

The HIJAB and KHIMAR, are on a par with the HABITS, COIFS, WIMPLES and VEILS worn by CHRISTIAN NUNS, and as such pose NO identification problems.

And IDENTIFICATION is THE issue here Withano.

NO ONE ever proposed banning ANY form of Muslim women's dress UNTIL Muslim Terrorists declared HOLY WAR upon the entire world and began to wreak the most evil campaign of death and destruction in it.

THEN and only THEN, did it not only become VITAL for the Security Forces of EVERY country in the world, to be able to readily IDENTIFY any MUSLIM, but it also became NECESSARY to put the worried minds of the citizens of those countries at rest.

UNIDENTIFIED people inside Burqas and Niqabs and Chadors, moving FREELY through the crowded Malls and Streets of our inner cities in ever INCREASING numbers, DO NOT placate anxious citizens nor alleviate their fears - perfectly understandable fears given the carnage inflicted upon ORDINARY, UNARMED, INNOCENT CIVILIANS by these terrorist cowards in many Cities throughout the world.

So there is no correlation between any call by the Security Forces or citizens of any free Western Democracy for the very sinister - and franky ludicrous - Burqa to be banned and this IMPOSING of Muslim dress and Muslim ideology on young schoolchildren who are not of that culture and not of that faith, at the cost of their own culture and faith, and with barbaric punishments for non-compliance.

There is also no correlation between the Burqa, Niqab, and Chador and the attire of Christian Nuns.

A Nun's attire does not fully conceal her gender nor her identity, and the Roman Catholic Church has not declared war on ALL Mankind, and is not currently committing atrocities within most countries of the world, and even in the comparatively rare incidents of evil Christian Extremist factions having committed atrocities in the name of God - there is NO evidence that Nuns have assisted them by concealing weapons and bombs beneath their habits.

Unfortunately, the same cannot be said of some Burqa and Niqab wearing Muslim women.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

You are not missing THE point Withano - you are missing lots of points. But before I expound, here is an image showing just what a Burqa is along with other traditional forms of coverings for Muslim women:

As can CLEARLY be seen, the BURQA is SINISTER and COVERS the ENTIRE wearer - to the point where identification of GENDER is impossible let alone identity of the wearer.

Nearly as bad, from a CONCEALMENT perspective, is the NIQAB, with the CHADOR - when it is worn high up the face so that only the eyes are revealed - as it is more often than not, being just as bad from the same perspective .

The HIJAB and KHIMAR, are on a par with the HABITS, COIFS, WIMPLES and VEILS worn by CHRISTIAN NUNS, and as such pose NO identification problems.

And IDENTIFICATION is THE issue here Withano.

NO ONE ever proposed banning ANY form of Muslim women's dress UNTIL Muslim Terrorists declared HOLY WAR upon the entire world and began to wreak the most evil campaign of death and destruction in it.

THEN and only THEN, did it not only become VITAL for the Security Forces of EVERY country in the world, to be able to readily IDENTIFY any MUSLIM, but it also became NECESSARY to put the worried minds of the citizens of those countries at rest.

UNIDENTIFIED people inside Burqas and Niqabs and Chadors, moving FREELY through the crowded Malls and Streets of our inner cities in ever INCREASING numbers, DO NOT placate anxious citizens nor alleviate their fears - perfectly understandable fears given the carnage inflicted upon ORDINARY, UNARMED, INNOCENT CIVILIANS by these terrorist cowards in many Cities throughout the world.

So there is no correlation between any call by the Security Forces or citizens of any free Western Democracy for the very sinister - and franky ludicrous - Burqa to be banned and this IMPOSING of Muslim dress and Muslim ideology on young schoolchildren who are not of that culture and not of that faith, at the cost of their own culture and faith, and with barbaric punishments for non-compliance.

There is also no correlation between the Burqa, Niqab, and Chador and the attire of Christian Nuns.

A Nun's attire does not fully conceal her gender nor her identity, and the Roman Catholic Church has not declared war on ALL Mankind, and is not currently committing atrocities within most countries of the world, and even in the comparatively rare incidents of evil Christian Extremist factions having committed atrocities in the name of God - there is NO evidence that Nuns have assisted them by concealing weapons and bombs beneath their habits.

Unfortunately, the same cannot be said of some Burqa and Niqab wearing Muslim women.

None of this is relevant to your OP kirk. Ive not brought up nuns, and I agree there is little or no connection to make there.

Your OP, (you may have forgotten because the thread has taken a new life of its own) was about Christian children being forced to wear specific articles of clothing. I believe everyone thus far has agreed this is wrong. I also believe that the post that I quoted here is the first to create a link between the childrens clothing and terrorism in the thread.

[jennyjuniper]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

You are not missing THE point Withano - you are missing lots of points. But before I expound, here is an image showing just what a Burqa is along with other traditional forms of coverings for Muslim women:

As can CLEARLY be seen, the BURQA is SINISTER and COVERS the ENTIRE wearer - to the point where identification of GENDER is impossible let alone identity of the wearer.

Nearly as bad, from a CONCEALMENT perspective, is the NIQAB, with the CHADOR - when it is worn high up the face so that only the eyes are revealed - as it is more often than not, being just as bad from the same perspective .

The HIJAB and KHIMAR, are on a par with the HABITS, COIFS, WIMPLES and VEILS worn by CHRISTIAN NUNS, and as such pose NO identification problems.

And IDENTIFICATION is THE issue here Withano.

NO ONE ever proposed banning ANY form of Muslim women's dress UNTIL Muslim Terrorists declared HOLY WAR upon the entire world and began to wreak the most evil campaign of death and destruction in it.

THEN and only THEN, did it not only become VITAL for the Security Forces of EVERY country in the world, to be able to readily IDENTIFY any MUSLIM, but it also became NECESSARY to put the worried minds of the citizens of those countries at rest.

UNIDENTIFIED people inside Burqas and Niqabs and Chadors, moving FREELY through the crowded Malls and Streets of our inner cities in ever INCREASING numbers, DO NOT placate anxious citizens nor alleviate their fears - perfectly understandable fears given the carnage inflicted upon ORDINARY, UNARMED, INNOCENT CIVILIANS by these terrorist cowards in many Cities throughout the world.

So there is no correlation between any call by the Security Forces or citizens of any free Western Democracy for the very sinister - and franky ludicrous - Burqa to be banned and this IMPOSING of Muslim dress and Muslim ideology on young schoolchildren who are not of that culture and not of that faith, at the cost of their own culture and faith, and with barbaric punishments for non-compliance.

There is also no correlation between the Burqa, Niqab, and Chador and the attire of Christian Nuns.

A Nun's attire does not fully conceal her gender nor her identity, and the Roman Catholic Church has not declared war on ALL Mankind, and is not currently committing atrocities within most countries of the world, and even in the comparatively rare incidents of evil Christian Extremist factions having committed atrocities in the name of God - there is NO evidence that Nuns have assisted them by concealing weapons and bombs beneath their habits.

Unfortunately, the same cannot be said of some Burqa and Niqab wearing Muslim women.

This is why I love Kirk Lancaster.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

You are not missing THE point Withano - you are missing lots of points. But before I expound, here is an image showing just what a Burqa is along with other traditional forms of coverings for Muslim women:

As can CLEARLY be seen, the BURQA is SINISTER and COVERS the ENTIRE wearer - to the point where identification of GENDER is impossible let alone identity of the wearer.

Nearly as bad, from a CONCEALMENT perspective, is the NIQAB, with the CHADOR - when it is worn high up the face so that only the eyes are revealed - as it is more often than not, being just as bad from the same perspective .

The HIJAB and KHIMAR, are on a par with the HABITS, COIFS, WIMPLES and VEILS worn by CHRISTIAN NUNS, and as such pose NO identification problems.

And IDENTIFICATION is THE issue here Withano.

NO ONE ever proposed banning ANY form of Muslim women's dress UNTIL Muslim Terrorists declared HOLY WAR upon the entire world and began to wreak the most evil campaign of death and destruction in it.

THEN and only THEN, did it not only become VITAL for the Security Forces of EVERY country in the world, to be able to readily IDENTIFY any MUSLIM, but it also became NECESSARY to put the worried minds of the citizens of those countries at rest.

UNIDENTIFIED people inside Burqas and Niqabs and Chadors, moving FREELY through the crowded Malls and Streets of our inner cities in ever INCREASING numbers, DO NOT placate anxious citizens nor alleviate their fears - perfectly understandable fears given the carnage inflicted upon ORDINARY, UNARMED, INNOCENT CIVILIANS by these terrorist cowards in many Cities throughout the world.

So there is no correlation between any call by the Security Forces or citizens of any free Western Democracy for the very sinister - and franky ludicrous - Burqa to be banned and this IMPOSING of Muslim dress and Muslim ideology on young schoolchildren who are not of that culture and not of that faith, at the cost of their own culture and faith, and with barbaric punishments for non-compliance.

There is also no correlation between the Burqa, Niqab, and Chador and the attire of Christian Nuns.

A Nun's attire does not fully conceal her gender nor her identity, and the Roman Catholic Church has not declared war on ALL Mankind, and is not currently committing atrocities within most countries of the world, and even in the comparatively rare incidents of evil Christian Extremist factions having committed atrocities in the name of God - there is NO evidence that Nuns have assisted them by concealing weapons and bombs beneath their habits.

Unfortunately, the same cannot be said of some Burqa and Niqab wearing Muslim women.

Great post
And very relevant since whenever a thread comes along showing just how backwards and nasty Islam can be there are inevitably always either apologists,excusers or comparisons made to try and deflect attention off the topic and attempts to denigrate Western countries and anyone who disagrees with this barbaric ideology.It beggers belief.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Great post
And very relevant since whenever a thread comes along showing just how backwards and nasty Islam can be there are inevitably always either apologists,excusers or comparisons made to try and deflect attention off the topic and attempts to denigrate Western countries and anyone who disagrees with this barbaric ideology.It beggers belief.

Well said

[Maru]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

You are not missing THE point Withano - you are missing lots of points. But before I expound, here is an image showing just what a Burqa is along with other traditional forms of coverings for Muslim women:

As can CLEARLY be seen, the BURQA is SINISTER and COVERS the ENTIRE wearer - to the point where identification of GENDER is impossible let alone identity of the wearer.

Nearly as bad, from a CONCEALMENT perspective, is the NIQAB, with the CHADOR - when it is worn high up the face so that only the eyes are revealed - as it is more often than not, being just as bad from the same perspective .

The HIJAB and KHIMAR, are on a par with the HABITS, COIFS, WIMPLES and VEILS worn by CHRISTIAN NUNS, and as such pose NO identification problems.

And IDENTIFICATION is THE issue here Withano.

NO ONE ever proposed banning ANY form of Muslim women's dress UNTIL Muslim Terrorists declared HOLY WAR upon the entire world and began to wreak the most evil campaign of death and destruction in it.

THEN and only THEN, did it not only become VITAL for the Security Forces of EVERY country in the world, to be able to readily IDENTIFY any MUSLIM, but it also became NECESSARY to put the worried minds of the citizens of those countries at rest.

UNIDENTIFIED people inside Burqas and Niqabs and Chadors, moving FREELY through the crowded Malls and Streets of our inner cities in ever INCREASING numbers, DO NOT placate anxious citizens nor alleviate their fears - perfectly understandable fears given the carnage inflicted upon ORDINARY, UNARMED, INNOCENT CIVILIANS by these terrorist cowards in many Cities throughout the world.

So there is no correlation between any call by the Security Forces or citizens of any free Western Democracy for the very sinister - and franky ludicrous - Burqa to be banned and this IMPOSING of Muslim dress and Muslim ideology on young schoolchildren who are not of that culture and not of that faith, at the cost of their own culture and faith, and with barbaric punishments for non-compliance.

There is also no correlation between the Burqa, Niqab, and Chador and the attire of Christian Nuns.

A Nun's attire does not fully conceal her gender nor her identity, and the Roman Catholic Church has not declared war on ALL Mankind, and is not currently committing atrocities within most countries of the world, and even in the comparatively rare incidents of evil Christian Extremist factions having committed atrocities in the name of God - there is NO evidence that Nuns have assisted them by concealing weapons and bombs beneath their habits.

Unfortunately, the same cannot be said of some Burqa and Niqab wearing Muslim women.

Great rebuttal post, kirk

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Maru

Great rebuttal post, kirk

Great? Right, I would like some evidence of women carrying bombs and weapons beneath their clothing for this rebuttal to have any credence whatsoever.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Great? Right, I would like some evidence of women carrying bombs and weapons beneath their clothing for this rebuttal to have any credence whatsoever.

It's been on the news.

One that springs to mind is some of the girls kidnapped by Boko haram were drugged and sent off with suicide bombs under their clothes.

This is one but there are others.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...gerian-mother/

[Ammi]

..I'm sure that there have been instances of certain clothing being used to 'mask' for sinister and hate filled intensions but it's still not the clothing to be feared..(in my opinion..)...it's those people themselves who do this and they're doing a great job in making the world fearful of things they don't need to be fearful of...isn't that the whole principle of extreme terrorism, to turn us all against each other in intolerance and fear...

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..I'm sure that there have been instances of certain clothing being used to 'mask' for sinister and hate filled intensions but it's still not the clothing to be feared..(in my opinion..)...it's those people themselves who do this and they're doing a great job in making the world fearful of things they don't need to be fearful of...isn't that the whole principle of extreme terrorism, to turn us all against each other in intolerance and fear...

You are right in a way but I think any clothing forced on women for the sake of modesty is pretty fearful in itself.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by jaxie

It's been on the news.

One that springs to mind is some of the girls kidnapped by Boko haram were drugged and sent off with suicide bombs under their clothes.

This is one but there are others.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...gerian-mother/

Everyone wears 'clothes'... it does not specify that they chose her for her choice of attire does it?

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Everyone wears 'clothes'... it does not specify that they chose her for her choice of attire does it?

I gave you the information you asked for.

I am also a bit stumped by your reply. You asked for an example of women or girls wearing bombs under their clothing. I gave an example of that and now you are saying everyone wears clothes. I don't get what you are saying here.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by jaxie

It's been on the news.

One that springs to mind is some of the girls kidnapped by Boko haram were drugged and sent off with suicide bombs under their clothes.

This is one but there are others.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...gerian-mother/

Cant think of any examples of people in suits or trackies carrying weapons so this is a fantastic point

Oh wait, maybe theres some, maybe we shouldnt generalise because there seems to be absolutely zero correlation between different types of clothes and weapons? Or we could just carry on being irrational generalisations?

(Not just you, theres a few that seemed to agree with Kirks silly post)

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Withano

Cant think of any examples of people in suits or trackies carrying weapons so this is a fantastic point

Oh wait, maybe theres some, maybe we shouldnt generalise because there seems to be absolutely zero correlation between different types of clothes and weapons? Or we could just carry on being irrational generalisations?

(Not just you, theres a few that seemed to agree with Kirks silly post)

actually this article I saw on Fb isn't unrelated to that point :

http://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenter...-james-obrien/

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Withano

Cant think of any examples of people in suits or trackies carrying weapons so this is a fantastic point

Oh wait, maybe theres some, maybe we shouldnt generalise because there seems to be absolutely zero correlation between different types of clothes and weapons? Or we could just carry on being irrational generalisations?

(Not just you, theres a few that seemed to agree with Kirks silly post)

Let's be straight, Kizzy asked how Kirk knew woman and girls had been involved in bombing by hiding bombs in their clothing. I pointed out it had been on the news and provided a link about one such situation. That's it. You can keep all the insinuation about generalisations to yourself. They are completely out of context.

A question was asked, I pointed out one source for the answer.

If you want examples of people in trackies with bombs look up Boston Marathon. It wasn't part of the question asked.

Do you literally have to jump on anything said that isn't your view and take it out of context?

[arista]

Originally Posted by Withano

nobody actually learns anything using the dailymail and jihadwatch as their sources, even if they think they do. Youth hasnt stopped me from using my intuition on this one so I think I'll manage.

Hang On he used the Daily Express
and others as well.
Youth is
needed more in this Section


intuition--- Yes That you have
Respect to you Withano



My feeds cover Left and Right
and Ch4HD News Live 7PM
is not caught in that BBC mess

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Great? Right, I would like some evidence of women carrying bombs and weapons beneath their clothing for this rebuttal to have any credence whatsoever.

Here is the evidence which you ask for; there is a great wealth more, but I should think this will suffice:

25th Dec 2002: Two assailants in burqas threw a grenade among worshippers attending Christmas Day Mass in the village of Chianwala, Northwest of Lahore, killing three and wounding thirteen.

1st Oct 2007: Bomber kills 15 in Pakistan: A burqa-wearing suicide bomber of undetermined sex has killed at least 15 people and injuring 22 at a crowded police checkpoint in Bannu, near the North Waziristan tribal region, about 110 miles south of Peshawar.

4th Dec 2007: Woman blows self up at Pakistan army checkpoint: A woman in a burqa carrying a basket over her head, thought to be an Afghan in her 30s, blew herself in*Peshawar*as she approached a checkpost.

24th Dec 2007: Woman with bomb under her burqa caught in Afghanistan: Afghan intelligence agents in*Jalalabad detained a woman, 55, hiding a bomb under her burqa. She had been followed from Kunar after a tip-off before her arrest. An official in Kunar's intelligence department explained that "She was carrying the suicide waistcoat for the Taliban."

14th Aug 2008: Shi'i pilgrims in Iraq: Twin suicide bombings by burqa'ed women*killed 22 and wounded at least 73 Shi'i pilgrims in Iskandariyah, Iraq, as the pilgrims made their way to Karbala, the police chief of Babil province.

25th Dec 2010: Burqa'ed suicide bomber kills 41 in Pakistan: In what may be the largest death toll to date,*Pakistan's first female suicide bomber*approached a security checkpoint as United Nations officials distributed aid in Khar, Bajaur Agency, to over a thousand diplaced people. She first hurled a hand grenade, then detonated an explosive-laden vest. A senior tribal administration official, Sohail Khan, announced that "At least 41 people are dead and more than 60 wounded in the suicide bombing."

10th June 2011: Assassination of Somalia's interior minister: A covered woman (not clear what exactly she was wearing) hiding a bomb killed*Abdi Shakur Sheikh Hassan*in his house in Mogadishu. A niece of the minister, she apparently detonated her explosives after being stopped by security officers; her bomb may have detonated a larger bomb already placed inside the house.


19th August 2011: "Female bombers hit Pakistan police at blast site": The Associated Press reports from Peshawar that a "burqa-clad female suicide bomber attacked police at the scene of an earlier explosion in northwestern Pakistan on Thursday, twin strikes that killed five people and broke a relative lull in [Islamist] violence."

Specifics: "two women approached police guarding [a just-bombed] area. One of the females threw a grenade, then was able to partially detonate her suicide vest, said Shafqat Malik, a police officer with the bomb disposal unit. She appeared to be 16 or 17 years old, he said. "I thought the girl was pregnant as she was walking slowly with another woman. As I tried to push people away, suddenly a blast took place," said police officer Himayat Ullah, who was wounded in the attack.

27th Sept 2013: Burqa clad woman suicide bomber kills unknown number in Helmut Province, Afghanistan: The woman in a full-length burka walked calmly into the drab government office. She moved close to the desk behind which an administrator was shuffling his papers. Others queued around her. Suddenly, without warning, she detonated the suicide vest she was wearing. The explosion flashed a brilliant white on the grainy CCTV before the cameras cut out, obliterating everything – and everyone – in the room.

29th March 2014: Four Burqa clad Taliban attackers in Kabul: Four of the Taliban members who attacked Afghanistan's*Independent Election Commission*compound today, injuring two police officers, wore burqas. None survived the assault.

13th Aug 2014: Four suicide bombings in northern Nigeria by covered women: A series of suicide bombings carried out by young women carrying*explosives under their body coverings, has wracked northern Nigeria, Agence France-Presse reports. Four such attacks by teenagers took place in July, leaving at least 9 dead and dozens injured. The worst of them, a blast at Kano State Polytechnic on July 30 killed 6 and injured 20. Another took place at an upscale shopping mall.

AFP goes on:
A security source involved in forensic analysis of the Kano blasts noted:
"From our preliminary findings, all the female suicide bombers were between 14 and 16 years which gives an idea of the age group of the bombers."

1st Dec 2014: Murder in a toilet stall:*Ibolya Ryan, a Romanian-born 37-year-old American kindergarten teacher and mother of 11-year-old twin boys, was stabbed to death with a knife on Dec. 1 by a burqa-clad woman who awaited a kafir to attack in the*toilets of the Boutik Mall on Reem Island in Abu Dhabi, UAE. The killer fled scene in a niqab and black gloves.

June 29, 2015 update: An Abu Dhabi court found*Alaa Al Hashemi, 30, an Emirati subject and mother of six, guilty of murdering Ryan and it sentenced her to death by firing squad. In addition, Al Hashemi was convicted of making a bomb (that did not explode) with which she tried to blow up an apartment belonging to an Egyptian-American doctor; of using an online account to spread information ridiculing and harming Abu Dhabi; and of sending money to Al Qaeda in Yemen.*

July 13, 2015 update: Hashemi was*executed*by firing squad.

6th Jan 2015: Attack on Istanbul police station: A female suicide bomber*killed one police officer*and injured another in the Sultan Ahmet district of Istanbul.

Istanbul governor Vasip Sahin told Turkish TV. No group has yet said it was behind the attack, the second on police in a week. ... Mr Sahin said the woman, dressed in a niqab, entered the police station and told officers she had lost her wallet before detonating the bomb.

22nd Oct 2015: Burqa clad suicide bomber kills 11 worshippers in and injures 18 more in Shi'ite mosque in Pakistan: The suicide bomber who entered the*Imambargah Mosque*in Balochistan Province in southwestern Pakistan was wearing a burqa. Police said 11 died and 18 were wounded.