[Saturn]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I said you were throwing a fit because you said ended the post with 'I'm not saying anymore' which very much sounds like you taking the ball and going home.

If someone makes a statement I disagree with, I'll research it and prove them wrong, I expect everyone else to do the same. Demanding proof is just a lazy out, find the proof and attempt to prove me wrong.

Trump came to prominence because he wanted to build a wall, he called Mexicans rapists and he wanted to ban Muslims from the US. That's what got him the Republican nomination. If he was more moderate he would not have gotten the nod. Look at any time his support dipped and I'd bet money that it coincided with occasions where he tried to backtrack on his earlier campaign promises.

He got the white house because of an ignorant anti-establishment vote but he wouldn't have gotten anywhere if it weren't for the bigoted core demographic he courted early on with the Republican race.

My advice to you in this thread would to avoid making statements that you cannot back up and then the whole issue will be avoided, that would be far easier and the debate would flow smoother for you and for the other people in this discussion? No one surely has time to research all the claims that you make? Thankyou for understanding this.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Well.That settles that then.He disavowed them.Numerous times.

Facts, especially checkable facts Paul, SHOULD indeed settle arguments - But this is TIBB.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Saturn

My advice to you in this thread would to avoid making statements that you cannot back up and then the whole issue will be avoided, that would be far easier and the debate would flow smoother for you and for the other people in this discussion? No one surely has time to research all the claims that you make? Thankyou for understanding this.

Well said.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Saturn

My advice to you in this thread would to avoid making statements that you cannot back up and then the whole issue will be avoided, that would be far easier and the debate would flow smoother for you and for the other people in this discussion? No one surely has time to research all the claims that you make? Thankyou for understanding this.

It's down to you to counter what I've said if you disagree.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Facts, especially checkable facts Paul, SHOULD indeed settle arguments - But this is TIBB.

Well why let facts get in the way of a good debate(slagging match) eh?

[Tom4784]

Do you guys have anything to actually add apart from jibes at my expense or are you just going to keep patting each others' backs?

Like I said before, if what I've said isn't factual then prove me wrong, it shouldn't be difficult if what you say is true.

[joeysteele]

Facts can be used to anyone's own agenda at times selectively.

We have on here, a few words he has said and that he has said those words many times, he says.

Well words are cheap,what has he done ad campaigned for to get this vile organisation out of existence for good.
Where are those facts?

he is backtracking a lot on things he said in the campaign, however his perceived racist rhetoric in this campaign for President is what has helped bring this filthy vile organisation back into the glare of publicity again.

They are holding a celebration, in part as to his victory,where has he said they must not use his name or attach anything to him as to their vile celebrations.
Where are the facts he intends to do that?

Leaders and politicians say many things in public that are just words,what facts are there as to what he says and thinks of this organisation in private.

Actions speak louder than words, he can say anything in public or an interview but who has the facts, real facts of what he really is thinking.
Therein lies a different story.

However, for me, going off some of his poison he chose freely to spout out in the election campaign, people have every right to be, and remain, suspicious of his real thoughts as to organisations like the KKK.

[Kizzy]

Fact's in a post fact era?... Experts?...pfffft.

#imwithmilo