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Old 11-12-2016, 09:22 PM #1
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You get their opinion on the poll, and maybe it's presented in a biased way, but then you also get the poll itself and the information within it. What were your thoughts on that?
You can get any poll to favour your agenda, just poll the right people.

And after Brexit and Trump, why should anyone believe any poll that any news corporation give them?
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You can get any poll to favour your agenda, just poll the right people.

And after Brexit and Trump, why should anyone believe any poll that any news corporation give them?
You can but if you have a credible source which this one is it's more likely to be somewhat accurate. Especially given the margins in this one it does seem to have weight for the argument that misinformation played a role in the election - do you not think there's a case for that having seen the poll/video? (and you're not really going to know about that unless you poll people so how else would we find something like that out in the first place?)
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You can but if you have a credible source which this one is it's more likely to be somewhat accurate. Especially given the margins in this one it does seem to have weight for the argument that misinformation played a role in the election - do you not think there's a case for that having seen the poll/video? (and you're not really going to know about that unless you poll people so how else would we find something like that out in the first place?)
What's her aim with this report?

It looks to me like she's saying Trump supporters are all wrong and are not to be trusted to think for themselves and should listen to us and do as we say

Well fair enough, I'll listen, but I'll also listen to what the other side say's, and I'll do it with an open mind, not some narrative that they're some bigoted monster which my poor little feelings can't handle. I'll judge for myself whether they are or not, I'll decide what I believe to be fake or not.

According to another poll Americans have just 6% trust in the mainstream media, well that speaks volumes.

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What's her aim with this report?

It looks to me like she's saying Trump supporters are all wrong and are not to be trusted to think for themselves and should listen to us and do as we say

Well fair enough, I'll listen, but I'll also listen to what the other side say's, and I'll do it with an open mind, not some narrative that they're some bigoted monster which my poor little feelings can't handle. I'll judge for myself whether they are or not, I'll decide what I believe to be fake or not.

According to another poll Americans have just 6% trust in the mainstream media, well that speaks volumes.
Well said! Thoughts mirrored by many.
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What's her aim with this report?

It looks to me like she's saying Trump supporters are all wrong and are not to be trusted to think for themselves and should listen to us and do as we say

Well fair enough, I'll listen, but I'll also listen to what the other side say's, and I'll do it with an open mind, not some narrative that they're some bigoted monster which my poor little feelings can't handle. I'll judge for myself whether they are or not, I'll decide what I believe to be fake or not.

According to another poll Americans have just 6% trust in the mainstream media, well that speaks volumes.
It's not really about her though or the way she presents it (even though she doesn't actually say any of that), it's more the poll itself I'm interested in to see what people think.
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What's her aim with this report?

It looks to me like she's saying Trump supporters are all wrong and are not to be trusted to think for themselves and should listen to us and do as we say

Well fair enough, I'll listen, but I'll also listen to what the other side say's, and I'll do it with an open mind, not some narrative that they're some bigoted monster which my poor little feelings can't handle. I'll judge for myself whether they are or not, I'll decide what I believe to be fake or not.

According to another poll Americans have just 6% trust in the mainstream media, well that speaks volumes.
Oh there's definitely bias in this report as the MSNBC are very left wing.

However I honestly don't think that the people that voted for Trump are gonna get what they was told by him as it's just unrealistic some of the stuff that he was saying.
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Oh there's definitely bias in this report as the MSNBC are very left wing.

However I honestly don't think that the people that voted for Trump are gonna get what they was told by him as it's just unrealistic some of the stuff that he was saying.
I don't think many deep down expected for him to deliver everything he said (when has any politician ever delivered?). It was more a protest vote against the global establishment and a rejection of political correctness, he was the only one that wasn't gonna be politically correct like all the other sheep, so he became the person to follow.

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