[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Withano

I mean all you have done here is announce that you have an intolerance to specific groups of people and then told me not to be insulting. As if members and guests viewig the forum from the religion youre intolerant towards wouldnt be insulted by you.

Maybe they wouldn't, that is a big problem in the UK assuming others are bothered or insulted when they really aren't, they might actually agree! I'm catholic but I don't agree with some of the views of the Church, there are some Muslims who don't follow Islam to the nth degree either, it's like a pick and mix the scenario

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Christmas Sherry

Maybe they wouldn't, that is a big problem in the UK assuming others are bothered or insulted when they really aren't, they might actually agree! I'm catholic but I don't agree with some of the views of the Church, there are some Muslims who don't follow Islam to the nth degree either, it's like a pick and mix the scenario

I mean thats precisely the point, I'm also Catholic and I agree its ridiculous to lump us with some of the elderly homophobes or priest-child molesters from the same religion as if we're all the same. Nobody is doing that though, but claims that all Muslims are the same.. Its just ridiculous, ugly, naive, overly simplistic and dangerous.
Have an opinion on terrorism sure, but I think its important to differentiate between them and an entire religion and I dont believe thhe user Im in a discussion with has ever done this. Which I find sad.
Edit: (Sad as in genuinely upsetting for the state of mankind, not sad the insult)

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Withano

I mean thats precisely the point, I'm also Catholic and I agree its ridiculous to lump us with some of the elderly homophobes or priest-child molesters from the same religion as if we're all the same. Nobody is doing that though, but claims that all Muslims are the same.. Its just ridiculous, ugly, naive, overly simplistic and dangerous.
Have an opinion on terrorism sure, but I think its important to differentiate between them and an entire religion and I dont believe thhe user Im in a discussion with has ever done this. Which I find sad.
Edit: (Sad as in genuinely upsetting for the state of mankind, not sad the insult)

Have I not, I believe I have. We live in difficult times and an awareness of the power of indoctrination in certain religions is crucial. To simply deny its existence is foolhardy to say the least.

Those people in Germany would be alive today if that animal had not been allowed into the country and still you seem more preoccupied with how offended Some Muslims may be from any criticism of Islam.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Have I not, I believe I have. We live in difficult times and an awareness of the power of indoctrination in certain religions is crucial. To simply deny its existence is foolhardy to say the least.

Those people in Germany would be alive today if that animal had not been allowed into the country and still you seem more preoccupied with how offended Some Muslims may be from any criticism of Islam.

Point you missed being: you dont actually need to insult all members of an entire religion by condemning the actions of a couple terrorists. Its incredibly insensitive, ugly cruel, overly simplistic and ridiculous to do so.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Withano

Point you missed being: you dont actually need to insult all members of an entire religion by condemning the actions of a couple terrorists. Its incredibly insensitive, ugly cruel, overly simplistic and ridiculous to do so.

A couple of terrorists, that's what I mean a complete denial of the scale of the problem.

I was critical of a religion that is deserving of criticism, no religion is above that - it's treatment of women for one is something many people rightly find offensive. Who are you to attempt to dictate who we can and can't criticize.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

that's what I mean a complete denial of the scale of the problem. .

Really. Is that what you mean. Reeeeeally?
It seems like the one thing you lack the most basic understanding of.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Withano

Really. Is that what you mean. Reeeeeally?
It seems like the one thing you lack the most basic understanding of.

I understand you alright. I'll leave you to continue with the insults although, according to you, you don't do insults, yeah right! Maybe you should learn to think before you speak!

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Have I not, I believe I have. We live in difficult times and an awareness of the power of indoctrination in certain religions is crucial. To simply deny its existence is foolhardy to say the least.

Those people in Germany would be alive today if that animal had not been allowed into the country and still you seem more preoccupied with how offended Some Muslims may be from any criticism of Islam.

These terrorist acts are nothing to do with the refugee policy. There are easier ways to enter the EU than as a refugee. Criminal fanatics are neither new nor far away; but you know what? they are very few. If we had closed our borders since the Iraq and Syrian troubles began, I don’t doubt we would of seen the same number of atrocities from terrorist.

Perhaps we have let too many immigrants in… perhaps we haven’t but to blame terrorism on immigration is a nonsense.