[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Overdramatic (and not in a fun way), argumentative for no good reason, potentially homophobic. I liked her yesterday but she showed quite an ugly personality tonight.

It's quite simple, people are allowed to dislike her without being accused of racism. It's attitudes like yours that actually hinder progress rather than aiding it.

I'm not hindering anything. What attitude are you talking about? If you really want it to improve one person shouldn't stop you from wanting to improve racism.
Speidi were obviously trying to wind her up is she not allowed to be irritated when she's been put in that situation? They were clearly singling her out even Austin said Speidi are distancing themselves from the group but yet they go out of their way to smother the girl that already feels hard done by and emotional over Ray J. "Potentially homophobic" shouldn't even be a thing.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo

"Potentially homophobic" shouldn't even be a thing.

Wtf not? Shes the first new star to be seen as a 2 dimensional character, and her second dimension is uglier than the first we saw in the VT. Its obviously worth discussing

Maybe in the next couple days, we'll see her make a few more controversial 'aah, almost got you' type jokes and it will become charming and we'll understand that she was indeed joking.. Maybe in the next few days we'll see her use a more offensive homophobic slur and we'll understand she wasn't joking.

The debate on this is open, lets not pretend that she didnt say this because we liked her yesterday.

What she said was potentially homophobic, or be potentially a joke. Lets call a spade a spade.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Originally Posted by Withano

Wtf not? Shes the first new star to be seen as a 2 dimensional character, and her second dimension is uglier than the first we saw in the VT. Its obviously worth discussing

Maybe in the next couple days, we'll see her make a few more controversial 'aah, almost got you' type jokes and it will become charming and we'll understand that she was indeed joking.. Maybe in the next few days we'll see her use a more offensive homophobic slur and we'll understand she wasn't joking.

The debate on this is open, lets not pretend that she didnt say this because we liked her yesterday.

Potentially homophobic is weird. Someone either is or they aren't. If you have to say potentially homophobic that means you're not sure if said thing is actually
Homophobic.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo

Potentially homophobic is weird. Someone either is or they aren't. If you have to say potentially homophobic that means you're not sure if said thing is actually
Homophobic.

Yes, thats the point, we're not sure, neither are you or anyone else defending her.. It was potentially a bad joke, it was potentially a homophobic hiccup. We'll have to look for similar traits before we conclude either way.

Main question is: is it acceptable?
Real unbiased answer is: no.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo

Potentially homophobic is weird. Someone either is or they aren't. If you have to say potentially homophobic that means you're not sure if said thing is actually
Homophobic.

The way she said it was questionable to me. The whole 'He doesn't want to sleep with an older man but he's okay with a gay boy?' sentence was just suspect, like she believed the latter to be more scandalous.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo

I'm not hindering anything. What attitude are you talking about? If you really want it to improve one person shouldn't stop you from wanting to improve racism.
Speidi were obviously trying to wind her up is she not allowed to be irritated when she's been put in that situation? They were clearly singling her out even Austin said Speidi are distancing themselves from the group but yet they go out of their way to smother the girl that already feels hard done by and emotional over Ray J. "Potentially homophobic" shouldn't even be a thing.

The attitude of seeing racism where it doesn't exist and using it to attack people for their views.

She had a piss poor attitude about being picked for the task and she was just using Ray J as an excuse and she distanced herself from others by telling people they couldn't talk to her. It didn't help she was standoffish when there was no reason to be either.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

The attitude of seeing racism where it doesn't exist and using it to attack people for their views.

She had a piss poor attitude about being picked for the task and she was just using Ray J as an excuse and she distanced herself from others by telling people they couldn't talk to her. It didn't help she was standoffish when there was no reason to be either.

She said she wasn't sure if she could talk to people due to the task but even then she did talk to people, bar being irritated with Speidi. She was courteous with Bianca and Angie and the old guy (forgot his name)

"The attitude of seeing racism where it doesn't exist" you can't tell people that have experienced racism what is or isn't. It's condescending. Racism comes in many forms. Subtle or strong. People not seeing racism in everything is not what's going to solve the problem. Addressing all the forms of racism will. Some are so subtle it's easy to pass it off as not being a form of racism when it is.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo

She said she wasn't sure if she could talk to people due to the task but even then she did talk to people, bar being irritated with Speidi. She was courteous with Bianca and Angie and the old guy (forgot his name)

"The attitude of seeing racism where it doesn't exist" you can't tell people that have experienced racism what is it isn't. It's condescending. Racism comes in many forms. Subtle or strong. People not seeing racism in everything is not what's going to solve the problem. Addressing all the forms of racism will. Some are so subtle it's easy to pass it off as not being a form of racism when it is.

You've been crying racism since last night though just because she got picked for a task. You can't accept that people have a negative opinion of her because she acted like a dick, not because of her skin colour

I'm fully aware of micro-aggression and I would have picked up on it if there was any but there wasn't. If anything, James leading the charge to pick her was likely motivated by the fact that he seems to be the type to be intimidated by strong women.

I'm in the camp that believes that black women tend to be treated awfully in BB and I do think it's often racially motivated but in this case Stacy's made her own bed by being a dick.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

You've been crying racism since last night though just because she got picked for a task. You can't accept that people have a negative opinion of her because she acted like a dick, not because of her skin colour

I'm fully aware of micro-aggression and I would have picked up on it if there was any but there wasn't. If anything, James leading the charge to pick her was likely motivated by the fact that he seems to be the type to be intimidated by strong women.

I'm in the camp that believes that black women tend to be treated awfully in BB and I do think it's often racially motivated but in this case Stacy's made her own bed by being a dick.

But James knew nothing about her at the start, what made her a dick at that point? and he seemed to be conflicted by his reasons for picking her. Those that did know her said they liked her and were against picking her. If he was indeed intimidated by strong women it should have been Bianca as he probably knows her and is more familiar with her as a strong woman.

But she didn't act like a dick. If she was irritated she had a reason. Speidi didn't even address Austin directly and he already branded Spencer at least a dickhead. But yet Stacey, who was being smothered by them directly can't be annoyed? Why does she have to tread on eggshells wth her reactions.

And the gay comment I've said what I thought about it up there about homophobia in the rnb community.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo

But James knew nothing about her at the start, what made her a dick at that point? and he seemed to be conflicted by his reasons for picking her. Those that did know her said they liked her and were against picking her. If he was indeed intimidated by strong women it should have been Bianca as he probably knows her and is more familiar with her as a strong woman.

But she didn't act like a dick. If she was irritated she had a reason. Speidi didn't even address Austin directly and he already branded Spencer at least a dickhead. But yet Stacey, who was being smothered by them directly can't be annoyed? Why does she have to tread on eggshells wth her reactions.

And the gay comment I've said what I thought about it up there about homophobia in the rnb community.

I think you're reaching.

She did act like a dick and so did Austin so I don't know why you're bringing him up when I'm not excusing his behavior in the first place. You are looking for racism where there is none. As I said before, you can't handle the fact that people simply don't like Stacy and you seem a bit obsessed with painting anyone that doesn't like her as a racist.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I think you're reaching.

She did act like a dick and so did Austin so I don't know why you're bringing him up when I'm not excusing his behavior in the first place. You are looking for racism where there is none. As I said before, you can't handle the fact that people simply don't like Stacy and you seem a bit obsessed with painting anyone that doesn't like her as a racist.

Girlfriend you can't understand that feeling of exclusion black women feel more often than not. I disagree she didn't act like a dick. Seems you can't accept someone didn't think she was a dick.
I've seen no legit reasons to dislike. If it was because she was snarky to Speidi well then y'all best begin to hate everyone that will be snarky to Speidi in the upcoming weeks to counter balance this.