[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by jaxie

I just can't be bothered. It's like talking to a brick wall.

Thanks for playing!

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Thanks for playing!

Is having the last word some sort of compulsion?

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

It's irrelevant for reasons I've stated in the last post that you chose to ignore (and probably didn't read, given how you just proved what I was saying right).

Your idea of 'proof' leaves a lot to be desired. Stating something as fact does not make it so. Simply opinion and supposition, nothing more however much you try to convince others otherwise.

[smudgie]

Any long term forecasts should be taken with a pinch of salt, either good or bad.
The economy will go up and down whatever we do.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Your idea of 'proof' leaves a lot to be desired. Stating something as fact does not make it so. Simply opinion and supposition, nothing more however much you try to convince others otherwise.

Your reading comprehension skills could also do with a bit of a touch up tbh.

When did I ever say my opinion was fact? Do I have to state the obvious and say 'in my opinion' at the end of every sentence for your benefit?

It's a qualified opinion. Most of the benefits that the leave campaign relied on have been been debunked FACT. The UK was under investigation for Human Rights Abuse and leaving the EU has put the kibosh on that (and any future attempts by the EU of preventing severe cuts for social funds for disabled people) FACT. Therefore it's fair to say that most Leave was basically a campaign against Human Rights masked as something else.

It's looking likely that we will have a soft brexit which means things won't change except we likely won't be beholden to those 'pesky' Human Rights laws that the EU enforces.

If you have something USEFUL to add besides inane jabs then by all means, go ahead.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by jaxie

Is having the last word some sort of compulsion?

You tell me, you said you had enough yet you keep replying? If you wanna play again then I'm game.

[Kizzy]

The NHS has been deemed to be a 'humanitarian crisis' if that's not an indicator of a failing on a monumental scale I don't know what is.
The one pledge that the UK got behind for brexit is that it would be safe, and it isn't... they lied.

You would think that would make millions very angry... but it hasn't, personally I don't understand that. Is the failure to act on their promises being excused? Are out voters too embarrassed to admit they were duped? Don't they care anymore?... :/

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

The NHS has been deemed to be a 'humanitarian crisis' if that's not an indicator of a failing on a monumental scale I don't know what is.
The one pledge that the UK got behind for brexit is that it would be safe, and it isn't... they lied.

You would think that would make millions very angry... but it hasn't, personally I don't understand that. Is the failure to act on their promises being excused? Are out voters too embarrassed to admit they were duped? Don't they care anymore?... :/

NHS disagrees.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...-uk-hospitals/

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-38538637

[user104658]

Originally Posted by jaxie

NHS disagrees.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...-uk-hospitals/

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-38538637

Chair of the health select committee, Sarah Wollaston MP, said: "There is a crisis in social care provision but the term 'humanitarian crisis' is too strong.

Not really disagreeing is it?

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Not really disagreeing is it?

Well yeah the statement was a humanitarian disaster and two articles say the NHS disagree. You're quoting one political source but that doesn't mean the NHS don't disagree. I can only pass on the information, if you have a problem with the content or any conflicting comments in it, take it up with the author.

The NHS is expensive to run, it always has been.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

The NHS has been deemed to be a 'humanitarian crisis' if that's not an indicator of a failing on a monumental scale I don't know what is.
The one pledge that the UK got behind for brexit is that it would be safe, and it isn't... they lied.

You would think that would make millions very angry... but it hasn't, personally I don't understand that. Is the failure to act on their promises being excused? Are out voters too embarrassed to admit they were duped? Don't they care anymore?... :/

We are is this crisis because of immigration and too many taking out of it and not enough putting in. Vast amounts of Money is also being wasted on non-essential services such as interpreters for people who make no effort to learn the language of the country they are living in. You support unlimited immigration so what do you expect. Consequences.

Why would voters be embarrassed as Brexit has not yet occurred and we are still paying millions to the EU. People who, like you, don't want Brexit also keep interfering in the Brexit process in an attempt to stop it or water it down to such a degree that Brexit won't even be the Brexit people voted for which has of course delayed the process even further. Maybe you should look closer to home with your finger pointing.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

well well....




The Bank had issued dire warnings against a vote to leave the European Union, with governor Mark Carney even saying the country could slip into recession.

Instead, the FTSE 100 closed on a record high for the sixth consecutive time on Thursday, the same day figures were released suggesting Britain was the fastest-growing of the advanced economies last year, with the services sector hitting a 17-month high.

BoE chief economist Andy Haldane said criticism of economists for failing to predict the financial crisis and the impact of the Brexit vote were a "fair cop", adding that the economics profession was "to some degree in crisis".

http://www.lbc.co.uk/news/uk/boe-chi...t-criticism-w/

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In other words they got it spectacularly wrong with their doom-mongering and i think our Nigel may well have called that one as well..

The service industry... Like servants and such? Who would have ever thought we'd need more of those? :/

The economics profession isn't in crisis, the fact that the govt makes up it's own stats means they are no longer required unless they toe the party line on anything, including brexit.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by jaxie

NHS disagrees.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...-uk-hospitals/

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-38538637

The chair of the health select committee Sarah wollaston is not the NHS.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by jaxie

Well yeah the statement was a humanitarian disaster and two articles say the NHS disagree. You're quoting one political source but that doesn't mean the NHS don't disagree. I can only pass on the information, if you have a problem with the content or any conflicting comments in it, take it up with the author.

The NHS is expensive to run, it always has been.

The NHS was in profit until quite recently when profit generating portions were sold off.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

We are is this crisis because of immigration and too many taking out of it and not enough putting in. Vast amounts of Money is also being wasted on non-essential services such as interpreters for people who make no effort to learn the language of the country they are living in. You support unlimited immigration so what do you expect. Consequences.

Why would voters be embarrassed as Brexit has not yet occurred and we are still paying millions to the EU. People who, like you, don't want Brexit also keep interfering in the Brexit process in an attempt to stop it or water it down to such a degree that Brexit won't even be the Brexit people voted for which has of course delayed the process even further. Maybe you should look closer to home with your finger pointing.

What have I done to interfere in the brexit process?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

We are is this crisis because of immigration and too many taking out of it and not enough putting in. Vast amounts of Money is also being wasted on non-essential services such as interpreters for people who make no effort to learn the language of the country they are living in. You support unlimited immigration so what do you expect. Consequences.

Why would voters be embarrassed as Brexit has not yet occurred and we are still paying millions to the EU. People who, like you, don't want Brexit also keep interfering in the Brexit process in an attempt to stop it or water it down to such a degree that Brexit won't even be the Brexit people voted for which has of course delayed the process even further. Maybe you should look closer to home with your finger pointing.

What was the brexit people voted for, what is being watered down?

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

We are is this crisis because of immigration and too many taking out of it and not enough putting in.

Migrants put in more than they take out

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Vast amounts of Money is also being wasted on non-essential services such as interpreters for people who make no effort to learn the language of the country they are living in. You support unlimited immigration so what do you expect. Consequences.

Why would any less be spent post-brexit, you give off the impression that you think brexit means no, or less immigration? It does not? Lol. I think its time to google what you voted for.

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Why would voters be embarrassed as Brexit has not yet occurred and we are still paying millions to the EU.

Looking likely that we're gonna be paying in to them forever regardless, and receive less benefits in doing so

Originally Posted by Brillopad

People who, like you, don't want Brexit also keep interfering in the Brexit process in an attempt to stop it or water it down to such a degree that Brexit won't even be the Brexit people voted for which has of course delayed the process even further.

Because barely any politicians who voted leave or remain wants any part of the process, if leavers keep stepping down, remainers have to pick up their mess, because someone bloody has to. If we left it to leavers to get us out, literally nothing would have happened yet.

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Maybe you should look closer to home with your finger pointing.

Not yet, I'm treating brexit as guilty until proven innocent, I will happily eat my words in March if the remainers pull it out of the bag and make a great brexit deal for us.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

The chair of the health select committee Sarah wollaston is not the NHS.

I quoted the news I'd recently seen. I didn't write it or choose who to quote. How you interpret it is your choice.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by jaxie

I quoted the news I'd recently seen. I didn't write it or choose who to quote. How you interpret it is your choice.

You were the one who took the headline at face value, it has nothing to do with interpretation, one conservative MP is not the NHS.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

We are is this crisis because of immigration and too many taking out of it and not enough putting in. Vast amounts of Money is also being wasted on non-essential services such as interpreters for people who make no effort to learn the language of the country they are living in. You support unlimited immigration so what do you expect. Consequences.

Why would voters be embarrassed as Brexit has not yet occurred and we are still paying millions to the EU. People who, like you, don't want Brexit also keep interfering in the Brexit process in an attempt to stop it or water it down to such a degree that Brexit won't even be the Brexit people voted for which has of course delayed the process even further. Maybe you should look closer to home with your finger pointing.

Good grief man, where the hell do you get this sort of information from?

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Withano

Migrants put in more than they take out


Why would any less be spent post-brexit, you give off the impression that you think brexit means no, or less immigration? It does not? Lol. I think its time to google what you voted for.


Looking likely that we're gonna be paying in to them forever regardless, and receive less benefits in doing so


Because barely any politicians who voted leave or remain wants any part of the process, if leavers keep stepping down, remainers have to pick up their mess, because someone bloody has to. If we left it to leavers to get us out, literally nothing would have happened yet.


Not yet, I'm treating brexit as guilty until proven innocent, I will happily eat my words in March if the remainers pull it out of the bag and make a great brexit deal for us.

Brexit will mean taking some control over our borders and not letting in people with nothing to offer our coutry, those that just take. Sore losers need to keep out of it whilst those in control of getting the best deal get on with it. If they can't get the deal they want then it should just be a hard Brexit, that's what people voted for not all this hesitation and delaying tactics.

So far we have not seen the disaster predicted by the doom and gloom remainers and many who made such predictions are now eating their words. Britain is a strong country - we don't need the EU, it's a mess anyway. Other countries will probably do the same as Britain as there seems to be a lot of dissatisfaction with the EU all round. We are just the first country brave enough to make the first move.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by MB.

That's because absolutely nothing has happened in regards to Brexit yet

Yes, but it was said that there would be an immediate effect with companies from overseas panicking and removing their business from Britain based on the knowledge that Brexit and leaving the EU was what the British people had voted for. That has not happened.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

The results of the Brexit alone had an negative impact, it's not exactly sometihng to celebrate that we only recovered because we're still in the EU.

This makes me think of people who deny Global Warming is a thing, you can convince yourself all you want that things are all rosy but that won't change the reality of what's going to happen.

The financial issue isn't even the worst part of it though, Brexit only went through because the government's under investigation for Human Rights' abuse by the EU due to the welfare cuts that the Tories proposed a while back. After we leave I'd bet those proposals will resurface.

It's sad how easy it is to get people to sign away their rights the second you mention immigrants.

The welfare cuts by the government were a reaction to the increased amount being spent on benefits - much of which is going to immigrants who sponge off our system.

[Kizzy]

Youtube video

I listened to this for 5 minuets and in that time farage explains his first meeting as an MEP he states that it was his intention at that time to break up the EU, he suggests that it should be the duty of ambassadors to bend to the will of government as a soldier would.... but this was in 1999 :/

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Brexit will mean taking some control over our borders and not letting in people with nothing to offer our coutry, those that just take. Sore losers need to keep out of it whilst those in control of getting the best deal get on with it. If they can't get the deal they want then it should just be a hard Brexit, that's what people voted for not all this hesitation and delaying tactics.

So far we have not seen the disaster predicted by the doom and gloom remainers and many who made such predictions are now eating their words. Britain is a strong country - we don't need the EU, it's a mess anyway. Other countries will probably do the same as Britain as there seems to be a lot of dissatisfaction with the EU all round. We are just the first country brave enough to make the first move.

Sore losers are doing the jobs that the bad winners have stepped down from / are incapable of doing. Your other points are wishywashy repitition that I dont feel the need to expand on much