[Kizzy]

Surprised at the opposition to the term 'trump loyalist' as a corbyn fan I've been accused of being everything from loyal to obsessed to loony, yet another double standard set.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Thanks TS and as for you Livia, you have the right to be offended even though I didn't offend you directly.

You're not allowed to call other forum members names because they disagree with you. I didn't exercise my right to be personally offended because I am not a fan of Trump.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Surprised at the opposition to the term 'trump loyalist' as a corbyn fan I've been accused of being everything from loyal to obsessed to loony, yet another double standard set.

Let me explain it for you. You are a fan of Corbyn, are you not? You are on the Left, you have said so yourself. Conversely, I am not a fan of Trump and neither are a lot of people being lumped into the "Trump Loyalist" pigeon hole. And furthermore, you've done a fair bit of name-calling yourself over the years as I recall.

You can object to Trump's visit for whatever reason you, or anyone else has. I think that, looking at the other despots we've schmoozed over the years, the reaction to Trump's visit is hysterical. And I can say that without calling anyone derogatory names.

[DemolitionRed]

1.8 million and counting!

[MrTheMan]

Trump...

I don't want him visiting my country, he looks like an Asian man who had his face dipped in dangerous acid.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Livia

Let me explain it for you. You are a fan of Corbyn, are you not? You are on the Left, you have said so yourself. Conversely, I am not a fan of Trump and neither are a lot of people being lumped into the "Trump Loyalist" pigeon hole. And furthermore, you've done a fair bit of name-calling yourself over the years as I recall.

You can object to Trump's visit for whatever reason you, or anyone else has. I think that, looking at the other despots we've schmoozed over the years, the reaction to Trump's visit is hysterical. And I can say that without calling anyone derogatory names.

This is very accurate. I know youre no trump fan Liv, but you have brought some much needed balance and perspective to the topic

[the truth]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

1.8 million and counting!

and 235000 have signed to let him in, in just 48 hours https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/178844

[arista]

Yes a Day debated in Parliament DR

Never mind about all the local problems MP's had
Your WASTE OF TIME
TRUMP DAY in the UK Parliament is now set for one day.

[arista]

Originally Posted by the truth

and 235000 have signed to let him in, in just 48 hours https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/178844

The fools that want him blocked
only get one day Trump debate in Parliament

Do they not know that?????

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by the truth

and 235000 have signed to let him in, in just 48 hours https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/178844

That's less that a quarter of what the other petition made in 48 hours.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

That's less that a quarter of what the other petition made in 48 hours.

Who cares - no one really takes it seriously snyway. No one is going to stop Trump coming.

[MrTheMan]

This palaver wouldn't happen if Hillary won the presidency, instead we have to put up with someone who looks like an Asian guy who had his face dipped in dangerous acid and talks like a mafia tough-guy.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by MrTheMan

This palaver wouldn't happen if Hillary won the presidency, instead we have to put up with someone who looks like an Asian guy who had his face dipped in dangerous acid and talks like a mafia tough-guy.

It could certainly be argued that Hilary was more of a mafia don. Nothing honest or law-abiding about her.

[MrTheMan]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

It could certainly be argued that Hilary was more of a mafia don. Nothing honest or law-abiding about her.

At least she wouldn't go around building ****ty walls along the Mexican border, banning muslims, repealing obamacare, mocking disabled reporters and coming up with other ridiculous policies that Trump would come up with.

[Vicky.]

Sorry. I do not give a flying **** about embarrassment caused to Her Majesty the Queen

The royals are a waste of time IMO...yes its all lovely and good for tourists and such. But I couldn't care less about them (unless harry is willy waggling in the press again...that can be quite funny)

And anyone can visit if they like to...

[arista]

"And anyone can visit if they like to... "

Yes business as usual
march away - changes nothing in England.

[arista]

Originally Posted by MrTheMan

At least she wouldn't go around building ****ty walls along the Mexican border, banning muslims, repealing obamacare, mocking disabled reporters and coming up with other ridiculous policies that Trump would come up with.

Update:
Banning Extreme Muslims that want to harm USA.



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[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

Let me explain it for you. You are a fan of Corbyn, are you not? You are on the Left, you have said so yourself. Conversely, I am not a fan of Trump and neither are a lot of people being lumped into the "Trump Loyalist" pigeon hole. And furthermore, you've done a fair bit of name-calling yourself over the years as I recall.

You can object to Trump's visit for whatever reason you, or anyone else has. I think that, looking at the other despots we've schmoozed over the years, the reaction to Trump's visit is hysterical. And I can say that without calling anyone derogatory names.

Please don't start accusing me of things... None on the despots were the western leader of the free world were they? let's keep some perspective.

Being called a loyalist isn't derogatory, you are having a somewhat hysterical reaction to this whole issue if you ask me.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Please don't start accusing me of things... None on the despots were the western leader of the free world were they? let's keep some perspective.

Being called a loyalist isn't derogatory, you are having a somewhat hysterical reaction to this whole issue if you ask me.

Putin is a world leader. Xi Jinping is a world leader. There's your perspective, right there. Unless you consider these not world leaders because they are not "western".

You can't tell other people what they may find derogatory. The term "Trump loyalist" was used in a derogatory way. It's all about intent, you know.

Furthermore, the double-standards you've been claiming look ridiculous when you look at your sig... and then remember that you've quoted the DM. You were cunning to remove your original posts but you can't remove it when people quoted it. I can post it if you like.

[Northern Monkey]

I would generalise that alot of the people who signed the anti Trump petition or even the people who created it don't give a flying **** about the queens embarrassment or the royal family either.They just used that wording as a tool to try and persuade more people of their agenda.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

I would generalise that alot of the people who signed the anti Trump petition or even the people who created it don't give a flying **** about the queens embarrassment or the royal family either.They just used that wording as a tool to try and persuade more people of their agenda.

Actually it was the man who set up the campaign in badly worded English that started it. I don't care about embarrassing the queen but I resent paying through my taxes for all the pomp and ceremony that comes with a state visit.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

Putin is a world leader. Xi Jinping is a world leader. There's your perspective, right there. Unless you consider these not world leaders because they are not "western".

You can't tell other people what they may find derogatory. The term "Trump loyalist" was used in a derogatory way. It's all about intent, you know.

Furthermore, the double-standards you've been claiming look ridiculous when you look at your sig... and then remember that you've quoted the DM. You were cunning to remove your original posts but you can't remove it when people quoted it. I can post it if you like.

Notice my use of the word 'free' there...

I'd say you're just nit picking to be frank, there are people who appear to be trump loyalists ... what's wrong with voicing that?

I may have quoted the DM in the past, who cares? Not sure why you've hijacked this thread to discuss it :/

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Notice my use of the word 'free' there...

I'd say you're just nit picking to be frank, there are people who appear to be trump loyalists ... what's wrong with voicing that?

I may have quoted the DM in the past, who cares? Not sure why you've hijacked this thread to discuss it :/

You started this whole ridiculous, off-topic discussion when you replied to a post of mine that I made to someone else. I'd call that nit picking.

Aaaanyhoo.... back on topic.

I see that Kuwait has stopped issuing visas for five majority Muslim countries, including Pakistan. Racists and Nazis? Can we expect some outraged protesters outside the Kuwaiti embassy today, or is the issue just with Trump? Interestingly, there's no word of the Kuwaiti ban in mainstream media. Funny that.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Livia

You started this whole ridiculous, off-topic discussion when you replied to a post of mine that I made to someone else. I'd call that nit picking.

Aaaanyhoo.... back on topic.

I see that Kuwait has stopped issuing visas for five majority Muslim countries, including Pakistan. Racists and Nazis? Can we expect some outraged protesters outside the Kuwaiti embassy today, or is the issue just with Trump? Interestingly, there's no word of the Kuwaiti ban in mainstream media. Funny that.

Just Trump.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

You started this whole ridiculous, off-topic discussion when you replied to a post of mine that I made to someone else. I'd call that nit picking.

Aaaanyhoo.... back on topic.

I see that Kuwait has stopped issuing visas for five majority Muslim countries, including Pakistan. Racists and Nazis? Can we expect some outraged protesters outside the Kuwaiti embassy today, or is the issue just with Trump? Interestingly, there's no word of the Kuwaiti ban in mainstream media. Funny that.

From my point of view, I think the problem people have with Trump (and why it's not publicised as much as the example you gave) is because he's a leader of a Western country, like the UK, like Ireland, like Australia etc etc So, it feels like he's speaking for us in a way, as a western society. It's like everytime there's a terror attack in a Western country or not even a terror attack any type of disaster or tragedy, it's publicised much more in our media because it feels more relate-able, we're not part of the same country but it would be silly to suggest that western countries don't share a commonality and feel some sort of kinship towards eachother. He in a way represents us as in the Wests way of life