[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

And yet Corbyn has been roundly mocked on these forums for not being "PM material" and for not toeing the line, and people were all over Milliband for being weird while eating a sandwich and "Having a weird voice and making odd faces when he talks" because you couldn't have that as a respectable PM. Hmmmmm how very odd... It's almost like the criteria morphs and changes with each situation based on other political factors and leanings

The difference being that Corbyn and Milliband are experienced politicians, Trump isn't. He likely put himself up against Clinton in protest against the lack of any viable choice and to prove a point.

Against the odds he won and found himself with the most powerful job in the world. How could there not be teething problems when even so-called professionals mess up all the time.

Totally unreasonable and just a witchhunt form all those Trump haters and sore Clinton losers. The guy really does have the fight of his life ahead of him with all that hate. Not a position most people would want to be in.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

The difference being that Corbyn and Milliband are experienced politicians, Trump isn't. He likely put himself up against Clinton in protest against the lack of any viable choice and to prove a point.

Against the odds he won and found himself with the most powerful job in the world. How could there not be teething problems when even so-called professionals mess up all the time.

Totally unreasonable and just a witchhunt form all those Trump haters and sore Clinton losers. The guy really does have the fight of his life ahead of him with all that hate. Not a position most people would want to be in.

same as brexit, people hate losing and hate being wrong so by slagging off both it makes them feel better about themselves and the fact their POV is not shared by the majority

[user104658]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

same as brexit, people hate losing and hate being wrong so by slagging off both it makes them feel better about themselves and the fact their POV is not shared by the majority

Its just bollocks LT, the point is that most people DON'T have to feel like their opinion is shared by the majority and therefore, just because the majority cotes for something, does not mean that opinions change to match. Personally I'd start to worry a bit if many of my opinions were shared by the public majority... I mean... look at them.

People "slag off" Brexit and Trump because they think they were bad decisions, bad for their countries, bad for the world. Trump is a little harder to take a concrete stance on there because Clinton would also have been bad news. Though what some fail to understand is that Clinton being bad news doesn't somehow make Trump GOOD news.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Its just bollocks LT, the point is that most people DON'T have to feel like their opinion is shared by the majority and therefore, just because the majority cotes for something, does not mean that opinions change to match. Personally I'd start to worry a bit if many of my opinions were shared by the public majority... I mean... look at them.

People "slag off" Brexit and Trump because they think they were bad decisions, bad for their countries, bad for the world. Trump is a little harder to take a concrete stance on there because Clinton would also have been bad news. Though what some fail to understand is that Clinton being bad news doesn't somehow make Trump GOOD news.

I don't know about anyone else but I didn't say he was a good choice, he was the only choice considering. Good or bad - too early to say, what I do know is that he isn't being given a fair go by some due to their pre-conceptions of him as a person and his strong presentation of his views.

His hard line on immigration is popular with many, same with Brexit, which clearly demonstrates problems with enforced immigration and people not being asked their opinions on this despite being very much affected by it - It is undemocratic and a democratic vote had its say.