[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Adam.

Many British people will do those jobs yet foreigners get it for working for less money.

I am a British citizen who works and I am entitled to take out what I put in.

We are the only country who has a benefits system like this and if we want it to last we need to sort it out by stop non British citizens coming over to claim and then move on to the British who are to lazy to work.

Your arguments are all confusing and merging into one.

If a foreigner comes over here to work, they too are paying into the system and are entitled to any benefits that come with it, including NHS services etc etc.

People coming over here and not working/contributing is something else.

You seem to be saying "No foreigners" no matter what. Work or no work, benefits or no benefits. If I were a lesser person I'd think you were racist.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Your arguments are all confusing and merging into one.

If a foreigner comes over here to work, they too are paying into the system and are entitled to any benefits that come with it, including NHS services etc etc.

People coming over here and not working/contributing is something else.

They are coming over for jobs that British people can and should be made to do.

Things like cleaners, Car washers, factory workers etc.

British people can and should he made to do these jobs

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Adam.

They are coming over for jobs that British people can and should be made to do.

Things like cleaners, Car washers, factory workers etc.

British people can and should he made to do these jobs

If only life was as simple as you seem to think it is.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

If only life was as simple as you seem to think it is.

It's can be simple.

Anybody who wont learn English should be told to leave.

Anyone who wont work including brits should not be allowed to claim benefits

Brits should be made to do dirty jobs

We need to take money out of other countries and plow it back into Britain as there are so many families in poverty

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Adam.

Anybody who wont learn English should be told to leave.

Anyone who wont work including brits should not be allowed to claim benefits

How many foreigners have you met that refuse to learn English?

How many foreigners and Brits do you know who refuse to work but claim benefits?

Originally Posted by Adam.

Brits should be made to do dirty jobs

Ok?

Originally Posted by Adam.

We need to take money out of other countries and plow it back into Britain as there are so many families in poverty

Take but no give.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

How many foreigners have you met that refuse to learn English?

How many foreigners and Brits do you know who refuse to work but claim benefits?



Ok?



Take but no give.

It's is a proven statistic that majority Bangladeshi women can't speak English.

I can't tell exactly who is bumming off the state when I see them

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Adam.

It's is a proven statistic that majority Bangladeshi women can't speak English.

There's a difference between "can't speak English" and "refuse to learn English"?

Originally Posted by Adam.

I can't tell exactly who is bumming off the state when I see them

So where's the outrage coming from if you haven't seen it?

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

How many foreigners and Brits do you know who refuse to work but claim benefits?

Funnily enough, I know load of people who clearly have no intention of ever working and basically all of them are "native Brits" over the age of 40. . Strange really, I mean we already know as a fact from the press that it's immigrants and young people who are the problem .

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Funnily enough, I know load of people who clearly have no intention of ever working and basically all of them are "native Brits" over the age of 40. . Strange really, I mean we already know as a fact from the press that it's immigrants and young people who are the problem .

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Adam.

It's can be simple.

Anybody who wont learn English should be told to leave.

Anyone who wont work including brits should not be allowed to claim benefits

Brits should be made to do dirty jobs

We need to take money out of other countries and plow it back into Britain as there are so many families in poverty

Mining was a pretty dirty job, remember what happened to them?..

Your argument is flawed.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Mining was a pretty dirty job, remember what happened to them?..

Your argument is flawed.

Mining was always gonna die but cleaners and farmers will always be needed

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Adam.

Mining was always gonna die but cleaners and farmers will always be needed

Are you comparing general cleaners to miners? Lmfao.

Farming is a skilled job imo. You can't just throw a spotty 18 year old on the dole onto any farm.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Adam.

Mining was always gonna die but cleaners and farmers will always be needed

You misunderstand... Your premise was that Brits don't want to do dirty jobs, my example was mining which was a very dirty job, one that many generations did before outsourcing.

It wasn't always going to die, Britain sits on top of miles of coal rich seams, and industry still rely heavily on it.

As marsh said do you think any unskilled unemployed Brit can become a farmer?

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Your arguments are all confusing and merging into one.

If a foreigner comes over here to work, they too are paying into the system and are entitled to any benefits that come with it, including NHS services etc etc.

People coming over here and not working/contributing is something else.

You seem to be saying "No foreigners" no matter what. Work or no work, benefits or no benefits. If I were a lesser person I'd think you were racist.

Oooh the R word, as soon as you start to throw that around you lose any credibility.

People should pay in for a number of years, like the rest of us, before they take out. You don't pay in one month, then take out the next.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Oooh the R word, as soon as you start to throw that around you lose any credibility.

People should pay in for a number of years, like the rest of us, before they take out. You don't pay in one month, then take out the next.

Oh right so does that apply for Brits then who have only just left school, got their first job and literally made one payment of tax? Do they have to wait an "x" amount of weeks/months/years to use services? Or those people who don't earn above the threshold to pay any tax at all, what about those people?

I'll use whatever words I want to where I see fit.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Oh right so does that apply for Brits then who have only just left school, got their first job and literally made one payment of tax? Do they have to wait an "x" amount of weeks/months/years to use services?

I'll use whatever words I want to where I see fit.

Not the same as their parents likely paid in for years.

There is a reason the government want to restrict access to benefits for immigrants as easy access attracts the wrong types of people and money doesn't grow on trees.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Not the same as their parents likely paid in for years.

There is a reason the government want to restrict access to benefits for immigrants as easy access attracts the wrong types of people and money doesn't grow on trees.

It is restricted.

What if their parents were one of these naughty benefit cheats, would the child be entitled then?

There's countless holes in daft rules like what you're suggesting.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

It is restricted.

What if their parents were one of these naughty benefit cheats, would the child be entitled then?

There's countless holes in daft rules like what you're suggesting.

That works both ways. If we just give handouts to everyone regardless there will be consequences for the rest of us as there is not a never ending supply of money, homes and services.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

If we just give handouts to everyone regardless

Evidence?

The man in the mansion doesn't count.