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16-03-2017, 03:25 PM | #1 | |||
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16-03-2017, 03:32 PM | #2 | |||
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16-03-2017, 03:33 PM | #3 | |||
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Just proves we're not a "union of equals" then. The democratically elected government of Scotland (with a far higher vote percentage than the tories) denied a referendum and a choice. What a disgrace. It will backfire on her though, support for independence will increase.
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16-03-2017, 03:34 PM | #4 | |||
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Could you even begin to imagine what the response would have been if the EU blocked the Brexit referendum.
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16-03-2017, 03:34 PM | #5 | |||
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Just proves it's not a good time to run two campaigns at once. You have after all already had the referendum and lost the vote.
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16-03-2017, 03:35 PM | #6 | |||
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It's quite funny how it's not seen as the same thing tbh
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16-03-2017, 03:36 PM | #7 | |||
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The EU blocked the result of Ireland's referendum on the Lisbon treaty. Already happened.
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16-03-2017, 03:38 PM | #8 | |||
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It's not like she said never, she just said it's not the right time. We were told it wasn't the right time for any votes on Europe for 40 years. I don't see the point really. At least you got a vote on the Lisbon treaty even though it ended as a betrayal.
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16-03-2017, 03:39 PM | #9 | |||
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They didn't block the result, they asked us to vote again and we voted yes the second time (I didn't but ya know)
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16-03-2017, 03:40 PM | #10 | |||
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Telling the Scots what they can and can't do......like what you all were pissed at the EU for doing.....same thing
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16-03-2017, 03:40 PM | #11 | |||
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At least you got a vote, we waited 40 years.
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16-03-2017, 03:43 PM | #12 | |||
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Saying not now, isn't the same as saying no you can't. The Scots told us it was once in a generation, not once every two years.
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16-03-2017, 03:44 PM | #13 | |||
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That was before you decided to leave the EU and split the 4 countries of the UK in two
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16-03-2017, 03:46 PM | #14 | |||
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With regard to the EU we all had a vote, we voted as a union. No one at any time suggested we were voting on the EU as separate countries or regions. I live in a Tory borough. My borough always votes for them, I don't, but I doubt I'd have much luck in overturning the government based on that.
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16-03-2017, 03:48 PM | #15 | |||
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You can't be in the UK and a country in isolation, the Scots voted to stay in 2 years ago, I'd imagine they will get another shot once Brexit is done and dusted, now isn't the time and it's very self serving of Nicola to even try and bring it to the table, no one has time for her whining
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16-03-2017, 03:58 PM | #16 | |||
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16-03-2017, 04:02 PM | #17 | |||
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That may be in part because no one thought we would vote to leave but we did. Now it seems everyone wants to cherry pick.
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16-03-2017, 04:06 PM | #18 | |||
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16-03-2017, 04:07 PM | #19 | |||
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They can have it
Once we are out of the Corrupt EU in 2019. OK Greg. |
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16-03-2017, 04:13 PM | #20 | |||
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I'm sorry that some of our neighbours don't like the English much but I don't think that is my problem so much as theirs. I don't bear them any ill will at all. At the time of the Scottish referendum the EU stated that if Scotland left there was no guarantee that they would be able to remain in the EU. That was when Spain first started to make noises over a veto. We aren't dragging the Scots out of the EU in as much as they probably wouldn't be in the EU had they left the UK. We all had a vote, we voted as one nation and we voted to leave the EU. Scotland all had a vote, they voted as a country to stay in the Union and be one nation with the rest of us. I can't be any clearer than that.
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16-03-2017, 04:19 PM | #21 | |||
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Whether Scotland leave or stay doesn't really effect me much I just think it's quite unfair that them not getting back into the EU as a separate country was used as a threat in the first referendum but then a couple of years later they were dragged out anyway and you won't admit that's a legitimate reason for them to have another referendum Northern Ireland leaving the EU will effect me and my country though
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16-03-2017, 04:23 PM | #22 | |||
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if i was scottish i would want to know all of the facts as to what being out of the eu will mean before having another vote on independence.
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16-03-2017, 04:23 PM | #23 | |||
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I think they will do some fudge of a deal regarding the border in NI |
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16-03-2017, 04:25 PM | #24 | |||
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They're going to have to, it could have dire consequences if not
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16-03-2017, 04:31 PM | #25 | |||
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Why do I need to admit something? I thought a discussion thread was about discussing our views on a subject, not having to validate others points of view. I've never personally said the Scot's shouldn't have another referendum ever and I have no political power to make that decision. Though in my opinion the EU stance is a weak, politically motivated tool for the SNP. Sure I would prefer the union to remain, this is my country, it has always been the union during my lifetime, and the past 300 years, well I'm mildly sentimental and I am interested in history, but do I really personally care if Scotland choose to go? Not losing any sleep over it. Am I interested in the politics of the situation and do I have opinions on it? Sure. Do I think the change is a legitimate reason for another referendum so soon? No not really since the EU said independent Scotland wouldn't have been a member anyway last time round. Still not losing sleep over it. I'm inclined to agree with May that it's not a good time there will be a lot going on with Brexit so I guess Scotland will have to wait it's turn. If the EU are now willing to have Scotland with open arms, that isn't going to change if they wait a bit longer to leave the UK and find out. If the EU won't have them that isn't going to change either.
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