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Old 08-04-2017, 05:53 AM #1
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I don't see that a lot, people liking the idea of children being in need. I don't expect you do either.

As Brillo has said, kids who need free meals already get them. This is just another little campaign in Corbyn's class war, but sadly he's targeting not exclusively rich people, but working class and middle class people who struggle and go without to send their kids to private school. Or maybe some like the idea of people having to remove their kids from a school where they're settled and sticking them back into the state system because they can't afford an extra 20% on fees.

And Brillos opinion is gospel, what was it you were saying about opinions on that other thread again?
Countless teachers have a different perspective, I'll go with them as there is some basis in fact in their opinion.
Who's to say the fees would increase? Maybe they could allocate a percentage of what the fees are currently?
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And Brillos opinion is gospel, what was it you were saying about opinions on that other thread again?
Countless teachers have a different perspective, I'll go with them as there is some basis in fact in their opinion.
Who's to say the fees would increase? Maybe they could allocate a percentage of what the fees are currently?
I passed over that bit at the start of your post,like you I give my opinion and it is up to others to disagree or agree with me.
It is true,those who need free meals do get them but some suffer stigma for that.

This policy would remove any ridiculing of children getting free meals as all would get it.
So in fact this in part, funded another way, actually helps remove a possible class divide on the issue.
That's how I see it anyway in part.

Not needing to quote others to make a petty jibe at someone, just my opinion.

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I actually do go along with much you say.

I hate the class war in politics,whether that is something like this or the present govts.sledgehamner attitude to the sick and disabled.

I personally like and see merits to this policy but as I said earlier funded by another means.
Also I do think if all primary pupils had free meals that would remove any lingering stigma towards those who need it.

I can however take some of your points on board definitely.
I'm not against primary school kids in state schools having free meals, I'm totally against people who scrimp and scrape to send their kids to private school being robbed to the tune of 20%. I see we share some ground on this.



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And Brillos opinion is gospel, what was it you were saying about opinions on that other thread again?
Countless teachers have a different perspective, I'll go with them as there is some basis in fact in their opinion.
Who's to say the fees would increase? Maybe they could allocate a percentage of what the fees are currently?

Sigh.... I said "as Brillo has said..." to save me stating it all over again. How come I can't do that, but you can?

Will you please leave me alone? It's tiresome having to explain myself to you continually. Do you think joeysteele can't answer for himself? That's who I was talking to. Not you.

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Sigh.... I said "as Brillo has said..." to save me stating it all over again. How come I can't do that, but you can?

Will you please leave me alone? It's tiresome having to explain myself to you continually. Do you think joeysteele can't answer for himself? That's who I was talking to. Not you.
This is a forum, you address me both directly and indirectly, I can interject where I see fit to.

I see it's ok for people to kick their heels up about tax breaks for married couples and the like not caring of the cuts that have to be made to absorb those?

Here is some information for you, the 'squeezed middle' were priced out years ago.

'Over five years fees are up by an average of 21pc across Britain. Over 13 years - the duration of a child's full schooling - fees have roughly doubled.'

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/investing...rivate-school/


“Children living in poverty often suffer more ill-health and absenteeism from school and cannot concentrate when they are hungry.

“Teachers and other public service workers are struggling to pick up the pieces caused by this Government’s economic and social policies. It has a responsibility to tackle, not generate, poverty and homelessness.”

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/ed...-a6813306.html
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This is a forum, you address me both directly and indirectly, I can interject where I see fit to.

I see it's ok for people to kick their heels up about tax breaks for married couples and the like not caring of the cuts that have to be made to absorb those?

Here is some information for you, the 'squeezed middle' were priced out years ago.

'Over five years fees are up by an average of 21pc across Britain. Over 13 years - the duration of a child's full schooling - fees have roughly doubled.'

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/investing...rivate-school/


“Children living in poverty often suffer more ill-health and absenteeism from school and cannot concentrate when they are hungry.

“Teachers and other public service workers are struggling to pick up the pieces caused by this Government’s economic and social policies. It has a responsibility to tackle, not generate, poverty and homelessness.”

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/ed...-a6813306.html
What's the relevance of that when children entitled to school meals get them anyway. The issue is with giving them to children whose parents can afford to pay for them. We cannot afford to waste public funds like that. The thing is simply an attempted vote winner.
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What's the relevance of that when children entitled to school meals get them anyway. The issue is with giving them to children whose parents can afford to pay for them. We cannot afford to waste public funds like that. The thing is simply an attempted vote winner.
Maybe less and less parents can afford them? means testing them I would think with 0hr contracts and things be a nightmare paperchase, that could be avoided.
Its kind of like a little tax break if you'd prefer to look at it like that what are school meals now about £10 a week? so that's approx £40 a month saving for families during term times.
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