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Old 19-04-2017, 08:50 AM #26
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We will see. Yeh of little faith.
It's not really about "seeing" though, is it? You just agree with and champion anything pro-Brexit, no matter what it is . Statistically, you're going to be right some of the time . You're like LT with American Cops and Kate McCann.

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She walks all over Corbyn at PMQ's.
Name one issue she hasn't ignored, mocked or fake guffawed her way through as she has noting to come back with...

Have you watched PMQs... He asks a question, she doesn't answer it and then everyone for some reason starts laughing... it's bizarre!
It's like some bad 80s sitcom :/
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It's not really about "seeing" though, is it? You just agree with and champion anything pro-Brexit, no matter what it is . Statistically, you're going to be right some of the time . You're like LT with American Cops and Kate McCann.
Yes I champion pro-Brexit as I believe in it. You champion anti-Brexit because you are deeply cynical in my opinion and anti-Tory full-stop. If May said white you would say black.
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Yes I champion pro-Brexit as I believe in it. You champion anti-Brexit because you are deeply cynical in my opinion and anti-Tory full-stop. If May said white you would say black.
I'm deeply cynical and sure in my cynicism because, as yet, I haven't been wrong. Maybe one day when I am I'll accept that I need to be more flexible. We'll bookmark the thread and revisit the issue if Brexit turns out to be a roaring success.

I suspect we'll be waiting a long time, though.
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Name one issue she hasn't ignored, mocked or fake guffawed her way through as she has noting to come back with...

Have you watched PMQs... He asks a question, she doesn't answer it and then everyone for some reason starts laughing... it's bizarre!
It's like some bad 80s sitcom :/
I think alot of the criticism with Corbyns PMQ performances are that usually he doesn't push the PM on a single issue.She defelects his question and he then changes to another subject without pressing her.He is getting better at putting the pressure on now though.Although it could be too late for him now.When Labour get decimated in this election I can't see Corbyn lasting long.
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There is 7 weeks to the election. Everyone in political parties will be running themselves ragged, there's not time for researchers and other political staff to make their particular party look informed as well as prepare for everything else that needs to be done.

During the last election I thought every party came off poorly after the debates.
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During the last election I thought every party came off poorly after the debates.
I disagree, I thought the 7-sided debate was great and very telling. I went in to it wanting a Labour or Lib Dems result, and came out of it being fine with anything bar UKIP, as the other 6 came off rational and intelligent.

I'm disappointed in Mays decision. Someone could have talked on her behalf.
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I disagree, I thought the 7-sided debate was great and very telling. I went in to it wanting a Labour or Lib Dems result, and came out of it being fine with anything bar UKIP, as the other 6 came off rational and intelligent.

I'm disappointed in Mays decision. Someone could have talked on her behalf.
I remember the excrutiating performance of Ed Miliband.

I've heard it said that politics is showbusiness for ugly people. I think that may be right in the USA, they're used to this kind of showmanship. I don't think it's something that we Brits do well, whichever party they represent. But I understand some people are disappointed.
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Whether there is any time for a debate to be organised remains to be seen, the sad fact is May has ruled participating out in favour of door knocking in her constituency, how very inclusive of her
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All MPs should be door-knocking in their constituencies. Lots of people never see their MP, or even know who represents them.
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All MPs should be door-knocking in their constituencies. Lots of people never see their MP, or even know who represents them.
Agreed, but she is the country's PM as well as being an MP in her constitutency
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Name one issue she hasn't ignored, mocked or fake guffawed her way through as she has noting to come back with...

Have you watched PMQs... He asks a question, she doesn't answer it and then everyone for some reason starts laughing... it's bizarre!
It's like some bad 80s sitcom :/
No I just mentioned PMQs because I never watch it.
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From what i've been hearing she may have been advised not to do TV debates as in her position she has nothing to gain and more to lose by doing them.
The DP earlier was saying that some people think we may not have had a coalition government without Cleggs performances in the TV debates.I seem to remember Clegg doing well in those.It's probably the best move on her part.
Why would she do them if they'll provide her with no benefit.
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Agreed, but she is the country's PM as well as being an MP in her constitutency
Actually, none of them are MPs once Parliament is dissolved.

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Actually, none of them are MPs once Parliament is dissolved.

She is still PM though, and as such should be reaching out to the country not just randomly selected homes.
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ITV confirm debate will take place
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From what i've been hearing she may have been advised not to do TV debates as in her position she has nothing to gain and more to lose by doing them.
The DP earlier was saying that some people think we may not have had a coalition government without Cleggs performances in the TV debates.I seem to remember Clegg doing well in those.It's probably the best move on her part.
Why would she do them if they'll provide her with no benefit.
Or she doesn't want to get involved as she would be arguing for a Hard Brexit which she has decided against, changing her stance on the single market would more or less kill off another SNP referendum, would resolve the NI border issue and there must be hugh pressure on her from London as well with banks taking their Headoffices to the EU to retain passporting rights.
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She is still PM though, and as such should be reaching out to the country not just randomly selected homes.
I'm not sure her local constituents would feel the same way. They deserve her to be a constituency MP, on top of everything else. It's the party that fights elections, not the Prime Minister.
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The motion has gone through for the election.
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It'd be a mistake for her not to do the debates, a bad performance wouldn't likely hurt her lead but refusing to take part certainly would so I hope she snubs them.

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ITV has said they will do one
with All the other party leaders
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She is still PM though, and as such should be reaching out to the country not just randomly selected homes.
She should do them.
They have been done for the last 2 elections and all those leaders were willing to do them,as they are now too.

Those leaders were all elected by voters too,except for Natalie Bennett and now Paul Nuttall.
If they can manage to do them,so should she.
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Strange how TV debates are treated as an absolute must these days when there was never any form of tv debate in the numerous general elections before 2010. There's only been two elections in which we had them and even in 2015 Cameron only reluctantly agreed to a seven person one. It's pretty obvious that the serving PM will always have the most to lose and the least to gain from TV debates, look how well they worked out for Brown in 2010
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I think alot of the criticism with Corbyns PMQ performances are that usually he doesn't push the PM on a single issue.She defelects his question and he then changes to another subject without pressing her.He is getting better at putting the pressure on now though.Although it could be too late for him now.When Labour get decimated in this election I can't see Corbyn lasting long.
These are my frustrations with Corbyn. I believe his heart is in the right place and he's a passionate man when it comes to the politics he supports but on PMQ we see no energy, which gives people the impression that he's weak and fallible.

Great guy but not a leading spokesman.
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