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Old 25-04-2017, 10:40 AM #51
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I can't stand our current defence secretary, Michael Fallon. He's such a cowardly weasel.

He brags how tough he is on Korea and Russia but would he fight? Not on your Nellie.

He'd been in his bunker, hiding behind Teresa May's skirt.
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Ah ok, so we should just leave terrorism alone until it self combusts! More lives will be lost in the waiting but collateral damage is better than trying to work out strategies that will stop lone wolf attacks.



The IRA were a side kick from the Irish civil war and hadn’t surrendered their arms since 1919. They had been blowing the Brits up since 1931 and we all know that there main intent was to rid Ireland of British rule. If we need to prosecute Sinn Fein for terrorist atrocities we need to do the same with President Clinton and his then government, who are well known for looking after Sinn Fein’s interests. At best they sympathized with the IRA and at worst, the U.S. NSC were aiding their cause with money and weapons. Popular opinion in the U.S. were very much behind the IRA but it appears that we forgive them.

As for the Good Friday Agreement, started by the Conservatives and concluded by Labour we at last found a solution for dismantling the IRA, (well thank fcuk for that) and the people involved in bringing about that agreement are now being called traitors by the ignorant few.


While the IRA have been granted pardons and freedom from prosecution, and some of their murderers have taken jobs of high-profile responsibility within their government, British Soldier who at the time were acting on the orders of the British government, are still being prosecuted. And Corbyn was an IRA supporter... and probably still is. He's also an apologist for a variety of dictators in the Middle East. I think that support for Muslim dictatorships and terrorist groups has led to the much-denied anti-Semitism displayed by some of his followers who can't tell the difference between Jews and Israelis. And no amount of denial will change that fact.

It's a mystery to me why the Left always take up the cause of anyone but indiginous Brits. Even in Labours manifesto they make it clear they will fight for the rights of foreign workers in the UK post-Brexit. Not a frickin' word about British people in Europe. But then, the I've witnesses the Left mostly describe them as beer-swilling, bingo-playing "Little Brittons" on the Costa del Sol, and totally ignore the medics, the businessmen and women, the teachers, the scientists etc. And I've seen you yourself post that British culture is nothing more than wondering whether or not to take an umbrella with you.
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Ah ok, so we should just leave terrorism alone until it self combusts! More lives will be lost in the waiting but collateral damage is better than trying to work out strategies that will stop lone wolf attacks.



The IRA were a side kick from the Irish civil war and hadn’t surrendered their arms since 1919. They had been blowing the Brits up since 1931 and we all know that there main intent was to rid Ireland of British rule. If we need to prosecute Sinn Fein for terrorist atrocities we need to do the same with President Clinton and his then government, who are well known for looking after Sinn Fein’s interests. At best they sympathized with the IRA and at worst, the U.S. NSC were aiding their cause with money and weapons. Popular opinion in the U.S. were very much behind the IRA but it appears that we forgive them.

As for the Good Friday Agreement, started by the Conservatives and concluded by Labour we at last found a solution for dismantling the IRA, (well thank fcuk for that) and the people involved in bringing about that agreement are now being called traitors by the ignorant few.
So you would be happy for someone who blew a family member of yours to smitherenes to be released from jail after a few months?


And its wildely accepted that corbyns buddy martin m was present at many kneecappings and murders.
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If you are told a lie (national tabloids) repeatedly and you give yourself no opportunity to further research those lies, you will believe what you are told...

Here's a man who wants to give more power to the people; a man who wants more fairness for working class Britain and who wants to find diplomatic solutions with known terrorist groups in an attempt to stop what our current government have miserably failed to do and the very people who need him the most; the serfdom; the people who have been hoodwinked, are calling him a monster and a terrorist dick sucker.

There's no hope. More and more of us are becoming enthusiastic captives of neo-liberalism. It reminds me of that alien film when they are all standing looking up at the blue light and shouting, "WE LOVE YOU" just before they're evaporated.

Here we go again..anyone with a view has obviously been hoodwinked by the tabloids..hohum.

Well i dont read tabloids or any newspaper.. i do get my info from real life and documentaries featuring the people involved in the subject matter...dont judge everyone by your own standards, or did you make the tabloid thing up yourself
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While the IRA have been granted pardons and freedom from prosecution, and some of their murderers have taken jobs of high-profile responsibility within their government, British Soldier who at the time were acting on the orders of the British government, are still being prosecuted. And Corbyn was an IRA supporter... and probably still is. He's also an apologist for a variety of dictators in the Middle East. I think that support for Muslim dictatorships and terrorist groups has led to the much-denied anti-Semitism displayed by some of his followers who can't tell the difference between Jews and Israelis. And no amount of denial will change that fact.

It's a mystery to me why the Left always take up the cause of anyone but indiginous Brits. Even in Labours manifesto they make it clear they will fight for the rights of foreign workers in the UK post-Brexit. Not a frickin' word about British people in Europe. But then, the I've witnesses the Left mostly describe them as beer-swilling, bingo-playing "Little Brittons" on the Costa del Sol, and totally ignore the medics, the businessmen and women, the teachers, the scientists etc. And I've seen you yourself post that British culture is nothing more than wondering whether or not to take an umbrella with you.
What 'fact' you're redirecting the blame for an individuals behaviour onto another... that's ridiculous and wrong.
Have you heard of accountability? :/

'The left'... is that the new blanket term you're adopting as a slur? Well could be worse I suppose.
Of course the rights of workers in the EU are an issue as are ex pats, but as those who voted remain are constantly reminded what's the point 'remoaning?' We've voted out....What's the matter, are you not quite as ecstatic about it as you thought you would be?

Cry me a river, I have a brolly.
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Look at Corbyn talking with these black gangsta rappers. What a danger to society this man is.
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