[Livia]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Hold the phone... What anti Britain sentiment? :/

LMFAOOOOOoooooooooo

You're kidding, right?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

She didn't single one race out and call them savages'.Only one poster did that and it wasn't Brillo.

She pointed out a statement of fact in the context of informing another poster that Britain isn't the only country to have a brutal past.

We have a brutal present, and a brutal future to look forward to ....where is the acknowledgement of that?

Also where in this multi racial cross referencing did 'Britain' become separated as 'White'?

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Withano

Why would she bring up race at all?

Becasue it's a thread about the French Election, which features a racist as a candidate. Catch up, Withano...

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Livia

Becasue it's a thread about the French Election, which features a racist as a candidate. Catch up, Withano...

Too quick on the condescending tone there, Livia. This is a side discussion on the history of Britishness. She switched the subject to the history of blacks and asians. Which is telling of her mindset imo, especially considering that she hasnt retracted or elaborated upon the post despite having ample opportunity to do so.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

LMFAOOOOOoooooooooo

You're kidding, right?

Nope I'm debating a topic Livia I don't have time for your baiting.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Withano

Too quick on the condescending tone there, Livia. This is a side discussion on the history of Britishness.

No there isn't. That's in your head.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Livia

LMFAOOOOOoooooooooo

You're kidding, right?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

Becasue it's a thread about the French Election, which features a racist as a candidate. Catch up, Withano...

It does, however the sympathies appear to lie with the fascist racist, I've tried to point this out but the response is I'm a PC with emotions :/

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Nope I'm debating a topic Livia I don't have time for your baiting.

How come it's only baiting when I reply? Never when you do?

And anyhoo, I wasn't baiting, I am genuinely incredulous at just how disingenuous that comment was.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

It does, however the sympathies appear to lie with the fascist racist, I've tried to point this out but the response is I'm a PC with emotions :/

YOu must be reading another thread. Unless you genuinely believe people who aren't as far left as you are racist, fascist monsters.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

No there isn't. That's in your head.

Apart from it was. But it works well in your favour if you pretend to not know of this.

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Hey if you are ashamed of our history don't shoot the messenger brillo.

We need fascists...Is that what you're saying?

Originally Posted by Brillopad

If you don't believe that everyone, every race and every country has as history not to be so proud of then you are deluded. Blacks and Asians have been raping, pillaging, killing and murdering their own for centuries and, more importantly, still doing so. We all have a history unedifying as it may be to you.

White races have gone a long way to make-up for theirs but some are never satisfied. They are not responsible for those that cannot do the same and neither are they responsible for handing everything on a plate to those that haven't put in the same efforts to improve their thinking and therefore quality of lives.

Still, you should elaborate on this post. You brought up the negative sides to entire races (but not whites) in response to a discussion about British history. I dont think you should leave your thoughts like this. It is worrying.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

We have a brutal present, and a brutal future to look forward to ....where is the acknowledgement of that?

Also where in this multi racial cross referencing did 'Britain' become separated as 'White'?

Er you were talking about British history in a thread about fascism.

What skin colour did British people have in colonial times?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

This shame of being British is as tiresom as it is funny. What a blinkered, provincial concept... we did bad things in the past so we have to wear sack cloth and ashes forevermore... or we could celebrate the fact that this country was instrumental in the abolition of slavery (obviously forget the fact that slavery is going on all over the world right now... and black/arab/asian people may be involved! GASP!).

There is good and bad in every race and in every generation. The British Empire was just as cruel as any other "Empire" in history. But obviously, the British Empire is the only one that should be criticised. When was the last time you heard anyone bad-mouth Spain or Portugal for the atrocities carried out on the indiginous South American people? Aren't we supposed to be forgving Germany for their past? Why can't some people see that there is some good in being British. something to be proud of? We have given more money to Jordan during the Syrian refugee crisis than any otgher contry... Ł1 billion in humanitarian aid so far and another Ł84 million pledged to help Jordan's Government provide schooling for Syrian children. Doesn't sound very racist or anti-Muslim, does it.

But then again... this is the forum where someone actually said that British culture is nothing more than deciding whether or not to take an umbrella out with them.

Also, it's the same people weeping and wringing their hands over treatment of people in other countries that goes back more than a few lifetimes, that insist that anti_Semitism in the Labour party is not a thing! The far Left seem to be taking a leaf out of the far Right's book when it comes to Jews.

What are you attempting to accuse people of now?... :/

Those foreign aid payments are balked at, they are something to be proud of but you wouldn't think it in the responses to them be honest.

What a pathetic accusatory post, as has been covered extensively over many threads every party has had issues only Labour however formally addressed them.

However it was a good deflection from you .

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

How come it's only baiting when I reply? Never when you do?

And anyhoo, I wasn't baiting, I am genuinely incredulous at just how disingenuous that comment was.

Then express that, how else am I to interprate your mocking otherwise?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Er you were talking about British history in a thread about fascism.

What skin colour did British people have in colonial times?

You are confusing yourself... read Withanos post to give you an indication of my reasoning behind my query.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Withano

Apart from it was. But it works well in your favour if you pretend to not know of this.






Still, you should elaborate on this post. You brought up the negative sides to entire races (but not whites) in response to a discussion about British history. I dont think you should leave your thoughts like this. It is worrying.

What are you on about. Kizzy was going on about our violent history (white) and I simply stated that whites weren't the only race with a violent history. Is that a lie then? She was the one being racist if you want to go down that route. Is that seriously your interpretation of my (racist) mindset. Nevermind your apparent PC mindset then.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

You are confusing yourself... read Withanos post to give you an indication of my reasoning behind my query.

You are kidding of course!

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

What are you attempting to accuse people of now?... :/

Says the accuser of accusers.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

What are you on about. Kizzy was going on about our violent history (white) and I simply stated that whites weren't the only race with a violent history. Is that a lie then? She was the one being racist if you want to go down that route. Is that seriously your interpretation of my (racist) mindset. Nevermind your apparent PC mindset then.

No. Only you brought up race. It was a weird jump out of nowhere. And I'm trying to give you an opportunity to explain your race-based posts so that you dont come off as a blaring racist. Help yourself jesus.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

What are you on about. Kizzy was going on about our violent history (white) and I simply stated that whites weren't the only race with a violent history. Is that a lie then? She was the one being racist if you want to go down that route. Is that seriously your interpretation of my (racist) mindset. Nevermind your apparent PC mindset then.

Nope... Look at your post again, you inferred that Blacks and Asians were and are still raping and murdering, yet Whites were but do not any longer..... Which is a flagrant example of your prejudice.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

You are kidding of course!

Nope.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Says the accuser of accusers.

Yep says me, I can back up my statements and indeed I have. I won't hold my breath for any clarification as to other ambiguous accusations leveled at myself or 'the left' in general.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

What are you on about. Kizzy was going on about our violent history (white) and I simply stated that whites weren't the only race with a violent history. Is that a lie then? She was the one being racist if you want to go down that route. Is that seriously your interpretation of my (racist) mindset. Nevermind your apparent PC mindset then.

She was referring to british history, it is you that leapt to race. Look at these two posts.

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Is hating fascists irrational.... Who knew?

Hey if you are ashamed of our history don't shoot the messenger brillo.

We need fascists...Is that what you're saying?

Originally Posted by Brillopad

If you don't believe that everyone, every race and every country has as history not to be so proud of then you are deluded. Blacks and Asians have been raping, pillaging, killing and murdering their own for centuries and, more importantly, still doing so. We all have a history unedifying as it may be to you.

White races have gone a long way to make-up for theirs but some are never satisfied. They are not responsible for those that cannot do the same and neither are they responsible for handing everything on a plate to those that haven't put in the same efforts to improve their thinking and therefore quality of lives.

Kizzy didn't bring race into it, you made that leap and it's undeniable.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Nope... Look at your post again, you inferred that Blacks and Asians were and are still raping and murdering, yet Whites were but do not any longer..... Which is a flagrant example of your prejudice.

What is happening in Syria right now? What is happening to women in Saudi right now? What is happening in parts of Africa right now? Are you trying to deny that this goes on in these counties right now under certain regimes? Is there anyone to help them? Do they have laws to protect them?

Do these crimes occur on the same scale here? Do we have a system in place that outlaws it and punishes? There is no comparison and if you don't understand that - I feel for you.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

She was referring to british history, it is you that leapt to race. Look at these two posts.





Kizzy didn't bring race into it, you made that leap and it's undeniable.

It is completely deniable. I stated the obvious. As already mentioned colonial British history is white so who else would she be talking about? I presented the obvious fact that you can't level those kind of allegations against just one race, unless of course you are totally biased. History speaks for itself.