[the truth]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

This would be a better move than the confrontational attitude of the Cons to Doctors and Nurses.

Get the proper costing done independently from a change in corporation tax and this plan has merit.

Of course this present Conservative party will hate it, they prefer to see NHS staff utterly demoralised.

lol nonsense
nhs wales under labour cutback budget
the doctors crisis is down to labours insame 2004 gp contract

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by the truth

lol nonsense
nhs wales under labour cutback budget
the doctors crisis is down to labours insame 2004 gp contract

Would that be New Labour? The neoliberal Right dressed up in sheep clothing. New Labour and the Labour we see today are not related; they share no DNA, so I'm not sure why you keep trying to dig up the dirt in an attempt to make comparisons.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Would that be New Labour? The neoliberal Right dressed up in sheep clothing. New Labour and the Labour we see today are not related; they share no DNA, so I'm not sure why you keep trying to dig up the dirt in an attempt to make comparisons.

its still labour and labour including corbyn have failed to address their failure with this disastrous 2004 gp contract....they should be trying to overthrow it but theyre not. theyre too busy sucking up for the unions votes

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by the truth;9293135[B

]its still labour

But not New Labour. New Labour want to see the end of Corbyn so they can get back to business. New Labour sat further right than Thatcher and Major. New Labour paved the way for the government we see today. The majority of people who support today's Labour party were no fan of New Labour.

and labour including corbyn have failed to address their failure with this disastrous 2004 gp contract....they should be trying to overthrow it but theyre not. theyre too busy sucking up for the unions votes

New Labour, the Tories and even the coalition are guilty of playing a heavy hand in privatizing what was once publicly owned and its been going on since Thatcher. demonising the trade unions was necessary if they were going to succeed because they were the main body fighting to save the jigsaw puzzle of sell offs. This is not about what New Labour did in 2004, its about what’s been happening to our NHS since Thatchers 3rd term in office in 1987. The sell off has happened and it happened right under our noses without us being aware before it was too late. Changing the doctors contracts of 2004, the nurses contracts of 84 or the catering contracts of 88 and the Health and Social Care act of 2010 are irrelevant in the grand scheme of things because the NHS is not a bubble, its many separate entities.

Many of us in my family are NHS workers and we have had a front row seat in watching the ruling classes systematically sell off and destroy our National Health Service.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Would that be New Labour? The neoliberal Right dressed up in sheep clothing. New Labour and the Labour we see today are not related; they share no DNA, so I'm not sure why you keep trying to dig up the dirt in an attempt to make comparisons.

To claim that Labour has no association with nor responsibility for 'New Labour' is just a fantasy. Many of those still in parliament were right there with Tony Blair, including Jeremy Corbyn who has been an MP since 1974.