[Withano]

This might come across as baity but were leavers expecting a good deal with the EU? I know Farage kept making the point about German cars in Britain, but nobody actually believed that we'd keep the privileges did they? Leavers left cos they assumed we could get good deals with other countries, right?

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by Withano

This might come across as baity but were leavers expecting a good deal with the EU? I know Farage kept making the point about German cars in Britain, but nobody actually believed that we'd keep the privileges did they? Leavers left cos they assumed we could get good deals with other countries, right?

This leaver voted for being able to rule ourselves once again.
I have no illusions that we may suffer short term after Brexit, but my vote is for my kids, who hopefully will benefit from it in the future.
No gain without some pain I guess.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by smudgie

This leaver voted for being able to rule ourselves once again.
I have no illusions that we may suffer short term after Brexit, but my vote is for my kids, who hopefully will benefit from it in the future.
No gain without some pain I guess.

What benefits can you see for your kids Smudgie, genuine question?

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by Cherie

What benefits can you see for your kids Smudgie, genuine question?

Genuinely.
A country that rules itself and doesn't need the blessing of 27 other countries.
Hopefully we will be able to trade with the rest of the world much easier, however if a decision arises to trade with Europe to both sides advantage I am all for it.
More control over our immigration, being able to take the best and leave the rest.
Hoping our government of the day ( whoever they may be) can stand up for Britain when it comes to quotas.
No doubt it is going to be a rocky road, but I don't think it is going to be as bad as feared by some.
The EU countries are hardly going to ban holiday makers etc, might just have to get a passport or visa but it's hardly the end of the world.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by smudgie

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A country that rules itself and doesn't need the blessing of 27 other countries.
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I always hated this side of the argument. What if Hitler-2.0 gets eleted and he can just do whatever he wants with your children and their future? I feel like this was poorly thought out by a lot of leavers. But yes hopefully we'll get a few good trade deals outside of the EU, that will be the saving grace.

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by Withano

I always hated this side of the argument. What if Hitler-2.0 gets eleted and he can just do whatever he wants with your children and their future? I feel like this was poorly thought out by a lot of leavers. But yes hopefully we'll get a few good trade deals outside of the EU, that will be the saving grace.

We managed without being stupid enough to vote for a dictator before, given that more people get to vote now I would hope common sense will prevail.
Thank goodness for democracy and parliament.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Withano

This might come across as baity but were leavers expecting a good deal with the EU? I know Farage kept making the point about German cars in Britain, but nobody actually believed that we'd keep the privileges did they? Leavers left cos they assumed we could get good deals with other countries, right?

When you leave, you leave. You don't stay half in. Absolutely no illusions about that.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by jaxie

When you leave, you leave. You don't stay half in. Absolutely no illusions about that.

The vote was to leave as members not stop dealing with the EU full stop.
That is and would be economic madness.

You are possibly one who would rather have no deal at all with the EU.
Thankfully,I doubt a pretty strong number at the very least, who did fall for voting leave,would have wanted or were voting for that when they actually cast their votes.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

The vote was to leave as members not stop dealing with the EU full stop.
That is and would be economic madness.

You are possibly one who would rather have no deal at all with the EU.
Thankfully,I doubt a pretty strong number at the very least, who did fall for voting leave,would have wanted or were voting for that when they actually cast their votes.

What did the leave voters 'fall for' ? They fell for nothing. They have a different opinion to you. Unless you are an economist or a clairvoyant you are no expert and your opinion is just opinion the same as everyone else.

To keep implying that those with a different opinion to yourself are ill-informed gullible fools is unproven and therefore incorrect (as a lawyer you should know that) and it is not your place to make such assumptions.

[Livia]

They were hardly going to say, so long... we'll miss you... keep in touch xxx They want to dissuade any other country from going down the same road.