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Old 02-05-2017, 01:29 PM #1
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The leave campaigners explicitly promised that withdrawal from the EU wouldn’t include leaving the single market and the customs union
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Infact even remainers said that leaving the EU meant leaving the single market.

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No.

Infact even remainers said that leaving the EU meant leaving the single market.

Correct there was no confirmation of what would happen to the single market until very recently, it was one of the questions that couldnt be answered until a decision was made on soft/hard Brexit

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No.

Infact even remainers said that leaving the EU meant leaving the single market.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xGt3QmRSZY

"Absolutely nobody is talking about threatening our place in the Single Market"
Daniel Hannan MEP

"Only a madman would actually leave the single Market"
Owen Paterson MP, Vote Leave backer

"Wouldn’t it be terrible if we were really like Norway and Switzerland? Really? They’re rich. They’re happy. They’re self-governing"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xGt3QmRSZY

"Absolutely nobody is talking about threatening our place in the Single Market"
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I'll say again. We voted to leave the EU. The single market is part of the EU. Therefore we voted to leave the single market. That doesn't mean we can't have a new deal but people have to let go of trying to cling to bits of the EU.
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I'll say again. We voted to leave the EU. The single market is part of the EU. Therefore we voted to leave the single market. That doesn't mean we can't have a new deal but people have to let go of trying to cling to bits of the EU.
Except that there ARE non EU members in the single market already. You talk like they're one thing. They're not.
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Except that there ARE non EU members in the single market already. You talk like they're one thing. They're not.
Well pointed out TS.
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Except that there ARE non EU members in the single market already. You talk like they're one thing. They're not.
Not exactly so TS. There are people who have various different agreements that allow them access to the single market, freedom of movement being one of them.
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Not exactly so TS. There are people who have various different agreements that allow them access to the single market, freedom of movement being one of them.
It is exactly so. They aren't EU members. Yes, there are caveats when it comes to single market membership, but it has nothing to do with full membership, and is not what was voted on in the referendum. To say that it's a flat "no" you have to make the assumption that everyone who voted for Brexit did so because they wanted an end to free movement. I'm sure many did, but not all. And the figures and percentages simply aren't available. We can "Brexit" and keep free movement without it being in violation of the referendum result in any way.
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