[Northern Monkey]

Here we go.....

Youtube video

Vote Labour

[joeysteele]

I've already posted on this on the GE thread.

It is a bad interview but the figures she got tied up with are right,I got what she was meaning.

10,000 more Police officers, her £80 million figure being average yearly cost.
She said this would be done over 4 years so that comes to just over £300 million as to costing.
Which was put out by Labour anyway far earlier.

All costed and being paid by capital gains tax changes.

She got badly in a mess but was not being deceitful.
I really do feel she needs to get on top of info better however.
It came over badly but the figures as to cost,Labour has presented fully and correctly.

It boils down to whether voters want more Police or not,if not well they will likely get none from the Cons.

[Northern Monkey]

Oops.Maybe this thread should be merged with the GE thread.I didn't know it was in there.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Oops.Maybe this thread should be merged with the GE thread.I didn't know it was in there.

It's good too to have a specific thread on issues as well,sometimes a general all purpose thread makes issues get lost at times.
Good to have both going I think anyway.

[Livia]

Excrutiating.

[Kizzy]

She has the info in front of her by the sounds of it, she was wrong to go into an interview with LBC without cast iron figures or any figures tbh, they don't need to yet before the manifesto so why set yourself up for a fall with LBC of all stations! It kind of came together in the end. but it will give the 'strong and stable' bots ammo :/

[Tom4784]

She's a mess....

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I've already posted on this on the GE thread.

It is a bad interview but the figures she got tied up with are right,I got what she was meaning.

10,000 more Police officers, her £80 million figure being average yearly cost.
She said this would be done over 4 years so that comes to just over £300 million as to costing.
Which was put out by Labour anyway far earlier.

All costed and being paid by capital gains tax changes.

She got badly in a mess but was not being deceitful.
I really do feel she needs to get on top of info better however.
It came over badly but the figures as to cost,Labour has presented fully and correctly.

It boils down to whether voters want more Police or not,if not well they will likely get none from the Cons.

...But you can't say that it's not a good plan. She's just piss poor when it comes to presenting it.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

She has the info in front of her by the sounds of it, she was wrong to go into an interview with LBC without cast iron figures or any figures tbh, they don't need to yet before the manifesto so why set yourself up for a fall with LBC of all stations! It kind of came together in the end. but it will give the 'strong and stable' bots ammo :/

Apparently she got the figures right when she did other interviews this morning

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Apparently she got the figures right when she did other interviews this morning

Ah good at least there is a record of her not being railroaded by some journo spiv

I still don't see why they had to rush out these figures before the manifesto, all this has done is take the heat off mays car crash interview with marr :/

[arista]

When the maths just doesn't add up for Diane Abbott

http://news.sky.com/video/when-the-m...bbott-10860592

Yes some want more Police
Diane Abbot was on the phone
talking to LBC, but got her numbers wrong.
Now the Radio clip is on Every News.


Forget the Police
its all about her now

[jaxie]

I can't watch it as I can't stand watching that horrid woman and her patronising voice. She could be the dictionary definition of hypocrite.

[Brillopad]

Idiotic woman.

[Kizzy]

Youtube video

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Ah good at least there is a record of her not being railroaded by some journo spiv

I still don't see why they had to rush out these figures before the manifesto, all this has done is take the heat off mays car crash interview with marr :/

Speaking of car crash interviews - Abbot took the prize.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Speaking of car crash interviews - Abbot took the prize.

It was just a telephone interview with Nick Ferarri, she wasn't on national television discussing the countrys future...get some perspective

[Beso]

ah good old diane abbot, the only politician who would come second to corbyn in a vote,

what a mess labour are..

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by parmnion

ah good old diane abbot, the only politician who would come second to corbyn in a vote,

what a mess labour are..

Correct!

[Livia]

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Livia

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by parmnion

ah good old diane abbot, the only politician who would come second to corbyn in a vote,

what a mess labour are..

That says it all.So true

[Kizzy]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...ers-make-sense

[Beso]

Haha..we dont even need the extra officers...recruit teachers and nurses abbot..thats what we need.

[joeysteele]

The Police want extra officers and having to deal with increased threats if terrorism such as the recent one or worse,I think the Police numbers do matter.

Especially after the years of really bad feeling between the Police and Theresa May while she was Home Secretary,where she really dismayed them with her bad attitude.

Diana Abbot had a bad interview,one out ofa good few that morning.
She should have had the figures spot on but the figures were made public by Labour earlier anyway.

There will it seems be no chance of the Cons having interviews like Abbots to get ridiculed for,since they are saying virtually nothing about anything but brexit, revealing extremely little and only criticising every other Party's plans,not putting any real detail of their own up for scrutiny.

No wonder this PM is running scared of any 'live' debates.
Her having to think and answer unrehearsed 'live' would likely open up far more worrying,interesting and revealing responses than Abbotts interview.

Abbot should have done better and had the exact info to hand.
She needs to make sure she is prepared with full costings for any future interviews.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Haha..we dont even need the extra officers...recruit teachers and nurses abbot..thats what we need.

TBH I agree. Even though I think people are generally sort of crappy, I do have a general level of trust in the public to - for the mostpart - protect and defend each other from actual harm and I feel like there would be far less need for increased police presence if there was simply a greater sense of community. I can't see "more authority figures roaming around" as ever being a good end goal, basically.

Especially - as you say - when NHS staffing levels and school budgets are in MASSIVE crises at the moment. Given that all of the pay levels are similar... We need 10,000 nurses or 10,000 teachers far more urgently than we need more police.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Haha..we dont even need the extra officers...recruit teachers and nurses abbot..thats what we need.

Why not recruit them all? We won't be the ones paying for it, the money brokers will. Its called government debt, something that isn't well understood.

I don’t particularly like Abbot and I can’t say I didn’t enjoy her uncomfortable uttering's but then I know her to be a sharp, quick tempered and intolerant woman.

She had to give that dangerous question an answer but all she had to say was, “ We won’t be paying for it because its just money and we can issue that as debt, the same as everything else the government pays for. We need to issue more debt if we want our economy to grow."

I suspect that simple answer would of bemused and even annoyed a lot of people but it was the straight answer and the no, flip-flopping around truth.