[user104658]

Originally Posted by Cherie

creating resentment

Yes. There you go. This is exactly what it's about; not the actual money.

especially when we are constantly told NHS funding is in CRISES if they want raise Ni they need to show that the tax paying public that they are making changes that save money in the right areas not denying drugs to patients because they are too expensive, it might be a drop in the ocean but savings have to start somewhere, and starting by maybe having enough cleaning staff to do a decent job would have an impact on levels of MRSA and so on..

Funding is in crisis because the Conservatives have deliberately and systematically slashed funding in order to destabilise the NHS, erode public confidence, and sell it all off to private organisations. Until people start understanding this, there's very little point in discussing what could or couldn't be done with the (YES ****ING TINY IN NATIONWIDE TERMS no matter how sarcastic people want to be about that) amount of £23,000,000 that is spent on interpreters for non English speaking patients.

A saving of 23 million would make absolutely zero difference to the wider NHS. None. Zip. People want translation services cut out of PURE SPITE because they personally don't believe non English speakers should be using the NHS or accommodated in doing so. Simple as that.

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Yes. There you go. This is exactly what it's about; not the actual money.



Funding is in crisis because the Conservatives have deliberately and systematically slashed funding in order to destabilise the NHS, erode public confidence, and sell it all off to private organisations. Until people start understanding this, there's very little point in discussing what could or couldn't be done with the (YES ****ING TINY IN NATIONWIDE TERMS no matter how sarcastic people want to be about that) amount of £23,000,000 that is spent on interpreters for non English speaking patients.

A saving of 23 million would make absolutely zero difference to the wider NHS. None. Zip. People want translation services cut out of PURE SPITE because they personally don't believe non English speakers should be using the NHS or accommodated in doing so. Simple as that.

Yes I understand the cuts to funding, but I also understand that there is huge waste in the NHS, how many unnecessary letters for instance are sent out, I got one the other day confirming an appointment had been cancelled after I had already received one the previous week so in effect a letter confirming what a letter had previously confirmed, this isn't a one off, it happens regularly, the problem it seem these day is that no one actually gives a monkeys about the job they do or uses their brain, it's someone else's money and as long as their pay goes into their account at the end of the month who cares!

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Yes I understand the cuts to funding, but I also understand that there is huge waste in the NHS, how many unnecessary letters for instance are sent out, I got one the other day confirming an appointment had been cancelled after I had already received one the previous week so in effect a letter confirming what a letter had previously confirmed, this isn't a one off, it happens regularly, the problem it seem these day is that no one actually gives a monkeys about the job they do or uses their brain, it's someone else's money and as long as their pay goes into their account at the end of the month who cares!

Although I agree with your post in general I will add that duplicate letters being sent out has more to do with staff shortages and staff being under considerable stress rather than incompetence or not caring about their job.

The workload of all NHS staff is very heavy because of staff shortages and very stressful. Mistakes occur.

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Although I agree with your post in general I will add that duplicate letters being sent out has more to do with staff shortages and staff being under considerable stress rather than incompetence or not caring about their job.

The workload of all NHS staff is very heavy because of staff shortages and very stressful. Mistakes occur.

I'm not sure it is a mistake though as it happens so often it looks like some sort of procedure they follow

[Cherry Christmas]

Is it spiteful of the a Spanish to get expats to pay for their interpreters or prudence on their part?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Yes I understand the cuts to funding, but I also understand that there is huge waste in the NHS, how many unnecessary letters for instance are sent out, I got one the other day confirming an appointment had been cancelled after I had already received one the previous week so in effect a letter confirming what a letter had previously confirmed, this isn't a one off, it happens regularly, the problem it seem these day is that no one actually gives a monkeys about the job they do or uses their brain, it's someone else's money and as long as their pay goes into their account at the end of the month who cares!

Cherie proving my earlier point about useless bloody administrators.

Get them out first!!!

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Yes. There you go. This is exactly what it's about; not the actual money.



Funding is in crisis because the Conservatives have deliberately and systematically slashed funding in order to destabilise the NHS, erode public confidence, and sell it all off to private organisations. Until people start understanding this, there's very little point in discussing what could or couldn't be done with the (YES ****ING TINY IN NATIONWIDE TERMS no matter how sarcastic people want to be about that) amount of £23,000,000 that is spent on interpreters for non English speaking patients.

A saving of 23 million would make absolutely zero difference to the wider NHS. None. Zip. People want translation services cut out of PURE SPITE because they personally don't believe non English speakers should be using the NHS or accommodated in doing so. Simple as that.

£23 million may not make a Hugh diffference to the wider NHS but it would make a lot of difference to those it could help.

Also, the crisis in the NHS may be as a result of Tory policy, but regardless of that the money that is there should be better spent i.e. Not on interpreters.

Lack of funding from the tories needs to be addressed but, in the meantime, we should not waste the precious funds we have. - that really is no excuse.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

£23 million may not make a Hugh diffference to the wider NHS but it would make a lot of difference to those it could help.

So the 23 million wouldn't be spread evenly across the whole NHS.

So how would you decide which specific patients this money would then benefit? And what priority do they have over the rest of the NHS?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Yes. There you go. This is exactly what it's about; not the actual money.



Funding is in crisis because the Conservatives have deliberately and systematically slashed funding in order to destabilise the NHS, erode public confidence, and sell it all off to private organisations. Until people start understanding this, there's very little point in discussing what could or couldn't be done with the (YES ****ING TINY IN NATIONWIDE TERMS no matter how sarcastic people want to be about that) amount of £23,000,000 that is spent on interpreters for non English speaking patients.

A saving of 23 million would make absolutely zero difference to the wider NHS. None. Zip. People want translation services cut out of PURE SPITE because they personally don't believe non English speakers should be using the NHS or accommodated in doing so. Simple as that.

Exactly. Fair enough if that is their opinion but don't try and then fail to dress it up as faux outrage at the interpreters wages bleeding out much needed NHS funding.