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Old 18-05-2017, 01:37 PM #1
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In this interview with Nick Ferrari, Conservative Michael Gove hopelessly messes up his numbers, not once, but twice.

The LBC Breakfast Presenter quizzed the former Secretary of State for Education about some numbers from the Tory manifesto.

Nick asked: "How much if I wish, if I seek to employ someone who is not born in the UK, how much is it going to cost me?"

Mr Gove replied: "I think that at the moment the current figure is going to be double, I'm just looking at my notes here, I don't have the exact figure of what it costs at the moment."

Nick said: "Mr Gove, you're lecturing me about the benefits of increasing the charge, and you don't know what the charge is?"

The prospective MP for Surrey Heath responded: "I think it's £2,000 a year."

Nick asked: "It's £2,000 currently is it?"

Mr Gove said: "Yes I think that's right."

Nick said: "So it will go to £4,000?"

Mr Gove said: "Yes I think that's right."

Nick added: "What will the impact be on the NHS?

"I think that the NHS benefits from having more people who are trained in this country, who can provide the care and support people need.

"It's already the case that the NHS benefits from people from outside the UK who've come here in the past, and of course we want to make sure we have the very, very best care.

"But it's also important that we ensure that the NHS is supported and enhanced by having people who have been trained in this country. More doctors, and more nurses, who are UK born and who can contribute to ensuring that the NHS remains a source of pride for all."

Nick then asked Mr Gove about the immigration figures promised by the Tories, which would see immigration reduced to the tens of thousands.

But this was also a manifesto promise from the 2010 Conservative manifesto, which never materialised.

Nick said: "Why on earth should they believe you this time?"

Mr Gove answered: "I think because we're going to be outside the European Union."

Nick asked the politician about the figures are for non-EU figures.

Mr Gove said: "It's over 200,000."

Nick interjected: "No it's not it's under. It's 169,000. And while we're doing sums I have to tell you that I understand that the fee, the charge which is paid, is £1,000, not £2,000."

Mr Gove responded: "In which case it's doubling from £1,000 to £2,000, I beg your pardon."

Nick said: "You're not very well prepared by your standards, Mr Gove."

The politician replied: "Well I didn't have a role in writing the manifesto. I'm here to outline the principles behind it and I think the principles are right."
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It's not a Labour **** up so I don't expect the media to make a deal of it.
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He was just using alternative facts and alternative maths. We don't have time for experts don't you know, we have a Brexit to be getting on with by gum.
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Silly Billy
At least he admitted to not knowing them before he took a guess, and he did know it was doubling
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It's not a Labour **** up so I don't expect the media to make a deal of it.
it's ridiculous how the media sculpt the minds
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He was just using alternative facts and alternative maths. We don't have time for experts don't you know, we have a Brexit to be getting on with by gum.
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I'm sure we'll be hearing all about this for the next two days
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I look forward to you retracting your comments about Emily Thornberry and Diane Abbott then

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I look forward to you retracting your comments about Emily Thornberry and Diane Abbott then

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Just like Emily Thornberry and you still slung her through the mud.
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Not double standards... in serious debates?
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Meanwhile, Diane Abbot has a new job as a darts referee.


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Gove is a back stabbing creep that May sent to the back benches. Is he still considered relevant in any way?

Diane Abbot is a patronising hypocrite and Corbyn's special friend.

How's that as a contribution for your tit for tat?
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Gove is a back stabbing creep that May sent to the back benches. Is he still considered relevant in any way?

Diane Abbot is a patronising hypocrite and Corbyn's special friend.

How's that as a contribution for your tit for tat?
He was sent as part representative to impart information, he failed.
It's a very important time for both parties, judging by the drubbing the Labour representative got don't you think he he should have been better prepared? Or they send someone who was, massive balls up.
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He was sent as part representative to impart information, he failed.
It's a very important time for both parties, judging by the drubbing the Labour representative got don't you think he he should have been better prepared? Or they send someone who was, massive balls up.
I already said what I think of him I don't need to enlarge. Neither party should be sending ill prepared incompetents to speak for them.
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Was Gove 'sent'? Or was he just a high profile figure who made himself available for interview? Diane Abbott by contrast is a party frontbencher who was touring the studios to announce a specific new policy.. and she was wildly wrong about the most basic points of that policy
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Was Gove 'sent'? Or was he just a high profile figure who made himself available for interview? Diane Abbott by contrast is a party frontbencher who was touring the studios to announce a specific new policy.. and she was wildly wrong about the most basic points of that policy
He was sent, they always roll this ghoul or the other one mogg when there's absolute tosh to be passed off as relevant information.
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