[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Withano

In all seriousness, I don't see much of a difference. Politically-motivated angst to further your own opinions at the face of an atrocity. It is insensitive, yes.

Where in my post did I mention politics,or are you dilibrately trying to make something of the post to suit your agenda ?

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Where in my post did I mention politics,or are you dilibrately trying to make something of the post to suit your agenda ?

It is a very political post, it didn't need a title. It had little-to-nothing to do with the story, especially when you consider the time you made that post.. it was purely political, and many others on the thread, the woman the DM reported on, and the Suns disgusting headline was too. Its simply disgraceful imo.

[Jay28jay2]

Lee Rigby - 22-05-2013
Brussels attack - 22-03-16
Munich attack - 22-07-16
London attack- 22-03-17
And now the Manchester attack - 22-5-17

Stay safe on the 22nd of every month, it seems to be a pattern

[Ammi]

...surely the only thing is to be clinging tightly to our families and loved ones right now and to be thankful that we are able to do that..as so many people right now just cannot..not snapping at what each other say or what the media says as we're the only ones that can give the rubbish printed significance or substance by allowing it into our thoughts and emotions...otherwise it's just nothing and will remain nothing...

..my heart breaks for the families and friends of those who lost their lives and for those and for all who will live with this terrifying experience...

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Withano

It is a very political post, it didn't need a title. It had little-to-nothing to do with the story, especially when you consider the time you made that post.. it was purely political, and many others on the thread, the woman the DM reported on, and the Suns disgusting headline was too. Its simply disgraceful imo.

What are you on about? this is my post

"It was only a matter of time wasn't it ? we do need to stop pussyfooting around people like this who have no regards for human life, until then more atrocities like this will happen all the time"

So do you think we dont need to do anything ? there is no mention of politics,muslims,racism,but you're just love it to be wouldn't you,so if you cant see the post for what is is just skip past as you obviously just love drama.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

What are you on about? this is my post

"It was only a matter of time wasn't it ? we do need to stop pussyfooting around people like this who have no regards for human life, until then more atrocities like this will happen all the time"

So do you think we dont need to do anything ? there is no mention of politics,muslims,racism,but you're just love it to be wouldn't you,so if you cant see the post for what is is just skip past as you obviously just love drama.

Dont love drama at all. People on and off the thread were still unravelling the story, and mourning the deaths of innocent children, whilst you and others discussed immigration levels, it was completely distateful and political. I didnt mention it until you started condemning people for doing something similar to you. Practice what you preach i guess

[andybigbro]

https://www.facebook.com/kingcobrata...3202415581226/

Andrew from BB17s view

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Withano

Dont love drama at all. People on and off the thread were still unravelling the story, and mourning the deaths of innocent children, whilst you and others discussed immigration levels, it was completely distatefuk and political. I didnt mention it until you started condemning people for doing something similar to you. Practice what you preach i guess

Find my post on this thread (or anywhere for that matter) where i discussed immigration levels? I suggest you stay off the plonk.your seeing things, be careful you might trip over your halo,anyway as stated this thread is about those poor people not what you THINK I have posted,so just ignore me and we are all happy

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

There is no doubt that if we hadn't allowed so many into our country over the years many people would still be alive today. Unfortunately it will only get worse.

People act so shocked, it's terrible, but what do they expect. These kind of attacks are going to become a normal part of British life. It isn't going to stop.

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Find my post on this thread (or anywhere for that matter) where i discussed immigration levels? I suggest you stay off the plonk.your seeing things, be careful you might trip over your halo,anyway as stated this thread is about those poor people not what you THINK I have posted,so just ignore me and we are all happy

Apart from you quoted the post above and responded to that, so yes. Unless you quoted it by accident, it was about immigration levels. Completely political, completely distateful, and completely hypocritical of you to condemn somebody for acting similarly.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Where in my post did I mention politics,or are you dilibrately trying to make something of the post to suit your agenda ?

You didn't. It's just presumed based on preconceived ideas.

[Shaun]

For the love of god, shut the **** up...

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Withano

Apart from you quoted the post above and responded to that, so yes. Unless you quoted it by accident, it was about immigration levels.

I was answering Brillo,about something needed to be done and we needed to stop pussyfooting about, ,just stop trying to make a mountain out of a molehill.If you have an issue with immigration respond to Brillo not me.Love how people try and make others look 'disgusting' people while they are preening their wings.Go and preach your virtues to someone else,now can we get back on topic?

[Rob!]

Originally Posted by the truth

youre a dangerous person. everyone who arrives at our shores should be thoroughly vetted...everyone who leaves , especially to countries in the middle east should be thoroughly vetted...the 2 million plus illegal immigrants who have arrived in the past 20 years should be thoroughly vetted. the open borders across europe which do not checking at all should be closed. all of this protects us and secures our borders and makes it harder to go back and forth with wepaons with sick terrorist training and spreading this warped ideology

you can sit there and allow open borders and call everyone racist, that does nothing to protect us it makes is 100 times worse

Yes. I'm a dangerous person. That's right.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Alf

I can deal with that, I know Islam isn't a race, and as long as I know, then that's all that matters.

I'd rather be a racist, then dead, or even worse, my friends or family dead.

And it's not racist to criticise a backwards and barbaric religion.

There are problems with Islam and hiding that solves nothing.

Nobody's saying all muslims are bad.Just that the problems need to be honestly looked at.

[Scarlett.]

Can we for once have some respect and not turn this into yet another TiBB mud slinging contests, Jesus.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I was answering Brillo,about something needed to be done and we needed to stop pussyfooting about, ,just stop trying to make a mountain out of a molehill.If you have an issue with immigration respond to Brillo not me.Love how people try and make others look 'disgusting' people while they are preening their wings.Go and preach your virtues to someone else,now can we get back on topic?

Changed your tune fast enough. Bringing up politics was wrong initially, now its fine if its about immigration and in response to somebody else.
I don't feel the need to discuss it with Brillo, she hasn't condemned others for discussing politics, shes been consistent enough in where she sees the line.
But yes, back to topic is for the best for everybody.

[Natalie.]

Can't get this out of my head awful

[Kazanne]

Lovely to see that homeless man saying he maybe homeless but doesnt mean he hasn't got a heart,that is the human side of this people helping each other

[AnnieK]

One of the vitems lived down the road from me. Don't know him but tributes coming in thick and fast. Having to try to explain to my 6 year old now why a bad man killed people in manchester... just shouldn't have to do it. Sad sad times. Vigil on in manchester and massive numbers have turned out I was in the city earlier and it was so quiet....loads of police and people milljng around but not much talking and certainly no laughter. Was very eerie

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

One of the vitems lived down the road from me. Don't know him but tributes coming in thick and fast. Having to try to explain to my 6 year old now why a bad man killed people in manchester... just shouldn't have to do it. Sad sad times. Vigil on in manchester and massive numbers have turned out I was in the city earlier and it was so quiet....loads of police and people milljng around but not much talking and certainly no laughter. Was very eerie

Was it the 28 year old guy Annie,they just showed him on the news,I can imagine it being very quiet there ,I was there a while back it is a massive arena, such a shame.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Jack_

No, but outside a venue is (for want of a better word) better than inside a foyer. I realise the logistics of implementing stricter security checks isn't easy for a large capacity venue, but they can certainly make changes in some places. When I went to NYC and DC last year there was airport style screening in all of the main tourist attractions and security by exit doors so you couldn't get in if you weren't coming out. Understandable given the events sixteen years ago and the cities are of course not comparable to Manchester, but there's definitely changes that can be made.



How do you know that? Has the identity of the attacker been revealed? The Westminster one was British born. More often than not these incidents have nothing to do with immigration or refugees, they're the radicalisation of people already living here. It's far too early to be speculating on stuff like this, not to mention inappropriate.

But seeing as you're going to make this political, do not doubt for any second that Lynton Crosby is rubbing his hands this morning. This will be the new attack line within a week, don't think that they won't sink that low, because they absolutely will. Mark my words.

I'm as upset as everyone else about all past and future victims of these people. But the reasons behind this tradegy can't be ignored - the elephant in the room should be allowed to be talked about.

My post clearly referred to our policies over a number of years with generations of immigration that has now led to a generation of anti-British/West cultures that hate the country and the people that gave them a better life than their parents/grandparents had before coming here.

You can can try to undermine such opinions all you like but the facts are that past decisions have now led to homegrown terrorism that isn't going to go away.

We all have to live with it now thanks to the decisions of others.

[Withano]

Time and place, Brillo

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Withano

Apart from you quoted the post above and responded to that, so yes. Unless you quoted it by accident, it was about immigration levels. Completely political, completely distateful, and completely hypocritical of you to condemn somebody for acting similarly.

And your post is every bit as distasteful as you accuse mine of being. Homing in on anyone who mentions the unmentionable according to your train of thought. A very questionable attempt at shutting down the valid views of others.

[arista]

from Ch4HD news
a couple waiting for their daughters
noticed a girl with Hair of Fire
and a plastic bag melted into her skin.

Their daughters were OK

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Withano

Time and place, Brillo

Your earlier posts invalidate such remarks. You may be trying to take the moral high ground here but that doesn't make you entitled to it. That is my last word on this because I know exactly where it will lead.