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i'm watching bbc news, there's parents trying to find their missing children. i don't understand? how can they just disappear? correct me if i am wrong but i don't think the arena collapsed, they could not be hidden and trapped under rubble. and given the attention the event has garnered, wandering children who look lost would surely be approached by a member of public to ask if they need help?
Some children may be unable to be identified at this time if they are dead or it is possible they ran and got lost
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i'm watching bbc news, there's parents trying to find their missing children. i don't understand? how can they just disappear? correct me if i am wrong but i don't think the arena collapsed, they could not be hidden and trapped under rubble. and given the attention the event has garnered, wandering children who look lost would surely be approached by a member of public to ask if they need help?
that is crazy, lets all pray they can be found
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i'm watching bbc news, there's parents trying to find their missing children. i don't understand? how can they just disappear? correct me if i am wrong but i don't think the arena collapsed, they could not be hidden and trapped under rubble. and given the attention the event has garnered, wandering children who look lost would surely be approached by a member of public to ask if they need help?
I want to be wrong but I think there's a good deal of time spent in making bodies look at least somewhat presentable before the time comes for asking the families to identify them. I can't imagine how soul-crushing that job would be.
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I want to be wrong but I think there's a good deal of time spent in making bodies look at least somewhat presentable before the time comes for asking the families to identify them. I can't imagine how soul-crushing that job would be.
It would be bad enough identifying a body as it is but if they body is severely danged with limbs missing i dont know how the parents can cope
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would it not be destroyed in the explosion?
You'd think so but if they can find a terrorists passport under the rubble of one of the twin towers then who knows?
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This is true.

With the bomb being nail one the injuries will be very bad. If homeless people were helping the injured by pulling nails out of surviving childrens faces imagine how badly damaged someone could be if they took the full blast
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It would be bad enough identifying a body as it is but if they body is severely danged with limbs missing i dont know how the parents can cope
too horrific for words
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You'd think so but if they can find a terrorists passport under the rubble of one of the twin towers then who knows?
Yes that is a real thing that happened in real life.
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Is the 22 dead, innocent victims or does that number include the scum that did it.
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the 4th confirmed victim is a young girl who although the age was not given suggested she was in primary school
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Mothers, Alison Howe and Lisa Lees have been confirmed as two of the victims as well, waiting to collect their daughters
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3 new confirmed dead.

Kelly Brewster, 32 shielding her neice from the blast
Alison Howe and Lisa Lees who were parents waiting for their kids

Alison and Lisa were among the missing so it's looking like the missing are dead.
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It breaks my heart, but there's only two explanations for the missing. Either they simply cannot be identified, or they're receiving treatment but haven't had their families contacted.
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You missed the very relevant 'past generations' point clever clogs. One's family history and religous culture are more significant than place of birth which actually means very little.
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Kelly Brewster, 32 shielding her neice from the blast
Alison Howe and Lisa Lees who were parents waiting for their kids

Alison and Lisa were among the missing so it's looking like the missing are dead.
So sad to think of those kids in distress and expecting their parents to be waiting for them and never finding them.
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You missed the very relevant 'past generations' point clever clogs. One's family history and religous culture are more significant than place of birth which actually means very little.
Oh, so his entire family - whom fled terror themselves - are now all to blame too? They're all jihadists? Right, got you.
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I've read reports that a man was arrested at the Birmingham vigil today, and that he was armed with a baseball bat and a knife. This is just awful.
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Oh, so his entire family - whom fled terror themselves - are now all to blame too? They're all jihadists? Right, got you.
Words in mouth again, you like doing that don't you.

No I said that without immigration bringing previous generations here we wouldn't have the current generation of jihadists being born here. They weren't created by the fairies.

And how do you know the circumstances of why their families came here - fleeing terror is not the only reason people are coming here as we are seeing all over Europe at the moment. Many more economic migrants than genuine refugees.
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Words in mouth again, you like doing that don't you.

No I said that without immigration bringing previous generations here we wouldn't have the current generation of jihadists being born here. They weren't created by the fairies.

And how do you know the circumstances of why their families came here - fleeing terror is not the only reason people are coming here as we are seeing all over Europe at the moment. Many more economic migrants than genuine refugees.
But this is still using the assumption that he is the way he is because his parentage must be the same. That's not always the case.
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