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andybigbro · 07-06-2017, 10:47 AM

So disgusting

Tom4784 · 07-06-2017, 11:29 AM

Turning our country into 1984 will not prevent anything like this happening in the Middle East, it honestly enrages me how people can be so gullible to throw away their own ****ing rights the second someone mentions terrorism. It's no small wonder why my faith in the public is non-existent when they are so willing to sabotage themselves for a false sense of security.

This is an attrocity but it has no bearing on our own rights. Giving up Human rights out of fear is pretty much allowing terrorists to win.

jaxie · 07-06-2017, 11:32 AM

How terrible for the people of Mosul. It's so horrible that no one seems to able to help or stop these atrocities.

bots · 07-06-2017, 02:18 PM

My understanding is that it would involve opting out of some human rights laws that we currently subscribe to from europe, it doesn't affect British laws, they have to go through and be approved by parliament as they have always done.

We have kicked back in the past at laws around prisoners voting rights for example.

It's really quite alarmist to say that our liberty is in jeopardy. We have many checks and balances in the system.

Vicky. · 07-06-2017, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide

My understanding is that it would involve opting out of some human rights laws that we currently subscribe to from europe, it doesn't affect British laws, they have to go through and be approved by parliament as they have always done.

We have kicked back in the past at laws around prisoners voting rights for example.

It's really quite alarmist to say that our liberty is in jeopardy. We have many checks and balances in the system.

I think it depends on quite what she is planning on doing. And given she won't say anything besides that she is planning on scrapping human rights laws to make it easier to deport terrorists and such...I think its quite right that many are very concerned about what would happen to 'normal' people caught up in it all.

I mean, it sounds like people are wanting the power to deport/lock up anyone who is simply suspected of stuff. No actual proof needed or anything. Thats an extremely dangerous way of thinking. I get that people are scared, but that really is not the answer. There should always need to be proof rather that 'we just think they may be planning' (or...on the more extreme end which sadly many seem to come under 'he has brown skin, deport him, regardless of if he is born in Britain')...and at the moment, if there is proof they are locked up...so quite what is meant to to change besides 'normal people' losing their rights to innocent until proven guilty too?

Brillopad · 07-06-2017, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide

My understanding is that it would involve opting out of some human rights laws that we currently subscribe to from europe, it doesn't affect British laws, they have to go through and be approved by parliament as they have always done.

We have kicked back in the past at laws around prisoners voting rights for example.

It's really quite alarmist to say that our liberty is in jeopardy. We have many checks and balances in the system.

The voice of reason. They are being alarmist yet they try and turn it around on anyone who doesn't agree with the.

Anaesthesia · 07-06-2017, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide

My understanding is that it would involve opting out of some human rights laws that we currently subscribe to from europe.

To save everyone arguing over an abstract, do you have a link as to which laws they might be? Or is "some human rights laws from Europe" as concrete as it gets so far?